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Double blow.....

Phuppetty_

Member
Messages
24
Location
Nottingham
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Hi. I was diagnosed with T2 and a heart condition on the same day. I have little information as the figures I have don't seem to relate to anything.... my GP did a finger prick test which recorded 22.6 and she followed it with a fasting test the following morning which she says was 80. I have no idea what they mean other than she said my blood sugar is high and has put me on metformin (1 at breakfast, 1 at dinner this week, then 3 a day next week). She advices me to reduce my sugar intake and to try and start to lose weight. She has booked me in with the diabetic nurse but that is 3 weeks away, and she advised me to look at this website for recipes, help and support in the meantime.

I feel awful, whuch is probably no surprise to you all! I am in remission with ovarian cancer, so now having heart disease and T2 to worry about as well I am lost as to how best to go forward. The metformin is making me feel sick, and I feel lightheaded and exhausted. My vision is blurred. Any advice you can give to get me through until I see the nurse will be greatly appreciated. I have reduced my carbs to below the recommended daily amount, and I am keeping natural sugars low while cutting out added sugars. Is this the right thing to do?
 
Oh dear Big hugs to you. You need to count you carbs and try to get under 100 grams a day or even lower for a while till you get your blood glucose under control , you need at meter to measure your blood glucose right before meals and Then 1 and 2 hours after to make sure you do not spike your blood glucose more than the 2 mmol more than before the meal , if going Low Carb you'll soon get more normal blood glucose and also feel much better and maybe also help you heart . This forum is great for support so stay here and ask as many questions as you need to . Wish you all the best
 
Your vision problems can if you are lucky go away soon They mostly do when blood glucose levels out to a normal range
 
Hi @Phuppetty_ and welcome. You are in the right place for great advice from fellow diabetics. I'll tag @daisy1 who will post some essential advice when she is online.
It's not just sugar you have to be careful with. All carbohydrates turn to glucose in your blood so cutting down on wheat based products, potatoes, rice and underground vegetables is a good thing to do.
As Freema said, your blurry vision can be due to fluctuating blood glucose and that can stabilise and improve when you get those under control.
Metformin made me feel awful. I stuck with it for 11 weeks but had to stop. Lots of people benefit from it so worth sticking with it for a while to see what happens.There is a slow release version which is kinder if you continue having problems with it.
Have a good read around the posts on the forum and do come back with any questions. There are some lovely people on here who will help when they can.. I have learned far more on here than I ever did from my NHS team.
This is a great inspirational thread to read http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/low-carb-success-stories.3763/page-24
 
Thank you. It's good to know I'm doing the right thing in watching my carbs. I didn't know I should be under 100g so I will watch that, and I will look into getting a meter.
 
Thank you for the advice. I will try to stick to metformin but hating it at the moment! Good to know it's not the only treatment though
 
I know your pain, I had a heart attack on the day I was diagnosed. You are in with a very dedicated team, so you are not alone. From what I can see, you are on the right path. Time and experience will help you to hone your skills. Good luck!!
 
Hi and welcome!

I think, with a double diagnosis like that, you should take your time getting your head around this.
Obviously, do what your doc tells you, and learn what you can, and make changes that you feel comfortable with, but you are also going to have to adjust emotionally - especially with the ovarian cancer experience so recent, and presumably with ongoing checks and treatment.

It is a shock to us all, and it takes a while for any of us to get our heads around the diagnosis, so I would expect you to have a few ups and downs in the process. So please keep checking in and posting. You are among friends.
 
@Phuppetty_

Hello and welcome to the Forum Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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Its interesting to hear your doctor recommended this site. Its unusual because many don't believe in whats recommended, though the second doctor I saw did point me here. For me the evidence is clear and the results fast. As I brought my BG down, my eyes were odd for a short time, but they soon settled down. I had my eye screening on Saturday and was told my vision is 'excellent'.
 
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