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staffyfan320

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
My 84 year old father was diagnoised with type 2 about 18 months ago.It is controlled by a daily tablet and does not take his blood sugar levels. Every morning after eating his breakfast he falls asleep for about an hour which leaves him feeling drained. He does not have the same food for breakfast, everyday he has something different ie Monday cornflakes, Tuesday toast with butter, Wednesday Porridge etc. He has mentioned it to his doctor but just got the response "well its not a problem just enjoy the nap" Unfortunately my father thinks it is a problem. He does have other health issues, Glaucoma and prostate problems and takes medication for them. Could this be a conflict of medication, diet or just old age ?
 
Hi @staffyfan320 and welcome to the forum.
I will tag @daisy1 to give you some advice about how your father can manage his blood sugar levels.
Whilst his breakfasts may not be ideal for a Type2 diabetic, he will have no way of knowing unless he tests his blood sugars before and after meals.

We are all unique in what we can and cannot eat and if you read around the forums you will see that some Type2s have to keep their carb levels they consume as low as 20gms, per day and there are others who can eat up to 150 per day or any amount in between.

You say that his diabetes is controlled by a tablet, but to be able to control things it is no good relying on a tablet as diet plays a bigger part.

There might be some contraindications with the other medication that he is on. List them and then google adding "blood sugars" to see if they do raise blood sugars.
 

to bad... how can they not care at all I am so angry to hear that, your farther has a claim of good life quality like every body else
 
Starchy foods and grains always make me fall asleep. High bs makes me sleepy too.
The tablet isn't necessarily controlling his bs. It's there to help but it is not a magic pill. Diet is more important.
Could he try eggs and bacon, no toast etc or lunch meat and cheese heated up for BF and see if he feels better?
 
Thank you for your help. Any information is welcome as we have had very little information from medical staff.Dad was diagnosed in hospital after having general tests for another complain tand was found to have type 2. He was sent home with a prescription and a leaflet which just explained general things to look out for but no real advise
 
@staffyfan320

Hello and welcome to the forum In addition to the replies above, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find this useful in helping your Dad. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
I can totally relate to the tiredness after eating cereals and toast, and I'm only 36! Cooked breakfasts are definitely the way forward... no toast or starchy products, but decent quality sausages (gluten free ones are usually quite low carb), eggs cooked any way, bacon, mushrooms.
I even enjoy strawberries and cream occasionally too. You can really mix it up and make some enjoyable breakfasts if you can look past what was once thought to be a healthy breakfast.
 
It really would be a good idea for dad to monitor his levels after eating - my bet is that his sugars are riding high after breakfast, causing him to sleep. Unfortunately, the "healthy" breakfast we are told to eat, the fruit juice, cereal, toast, is the worst meal of the day for carbs - which turn to sugar in the bloodstream.

Maybe persuade him that changes might be beneficial?
 
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