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Tricia15

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Location
Wigan
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Have been pre diabetic for good few years, 8-10 I think and have been watching my diet all the while with levels around 5-6. Also have underactive thyroid which doesn't help with the weight. Earlier this year had my bloods done and was horrified to learn that it was all out of control and put on medication, Metformin, Had bad reaction and now on Gliciazide. Last couple of years have had some ongoing family problems the stress of which was I think in part to blame for the raised levels. Was really down when I got the results and just about now coming to terms with it. Have had to retire early, just was too ill to continue.

Trying still to get my levels down, mainly in the teens now with one or two hikes to mid twenties. Got my best results earlier today with 8.6 after making adjustments to diet. Now hoping to keep them around that level.

Interested to note that others have had the blurry vision. I've noticed the same since increase in levels. Need help in reading instructions on medication!

Hope to pick up some advice from the rest of you on here. Looking forward to chatting on the threads!
 
Hi Tricia, you have come to the right place to get the help your looking for, @daisy1 should be along shortly with a long list of helpful advice.

There will be many here that will have lots of good advice. You mention you have being dieting on here everyone seems to follow a 'low carb high fat diet and it works' what is your diet
Neil
 
HelloTricia12 and welcome to the forum. You'll find lots of helpful links here to get you on track.
 

Was half heartedly cutting back on carbs but have now decided to do it properly! After the result I had earlier will be following it properly from now on. Just a matter of getting which veg are carb heavy and which aren't. My downfall is potatoes in all their guises! Had sweet potato tonight to replace ordinary ones. Will get there!
 
HelloTricia12 and welcome to the forum. You'll find lots of helpful links here to get you on track.

Thanks Lorraine! Have been browsing through a few of them and finding out what some of the terms in posters' footers are all about!
 

HI, Daisy1 may not belong until the morning, but it will be worth it when she posts the list of info.

I have fortunately, although I was addicted to potatoes & bread in all it's guises, I am now only having mainly vegs with meat or fish, from above the ground. Swede being the exception which I like anyway. I can manage 1/2 a jacket potato, I Ok with a slice of Bergen Bread with Butter. But I can say it is
definitely worth it cutting the carbs. Increasing the fat. Stopped the cereal & granola, just have it sprinkled on Full Fat Yogurt with berries & flax seed. or eggs & bacon. Ryvita & Philadelphia tomato Olives & Mackerel lunchtimes or cheese or ham.

Are you testing just before you eat a meal then at least 2 hours after co's that's the only way that you will find which foods are affecting you.
Neil
 

Hi Tricia,

I was diagnosed around 15 years ago and probably pre-diabetic long before that with my awful family history and inordinate consumption of coke and mars bars.

started giving it a go only about 3 years ago when some herbs i took gave me good FBG readings. problem was that it was expensive and unsustainable as i would revert to old habits. but it did mean that all was not lost..for 15 years my blood sugar commonly ranged between 20-30 and i didn't even bother testing my A1C. i am pretty sure the herbs helped so when i finally did, my A1C was 8.6.

4 months ago, i went on the Low Carb/High Fat diet, joined this forum, read loads of stuff online, watched numerous youtube videos by the experts and bought the books. In just EIGHT weeks of diligent low carbing, my A1C came down to 6.2. so if it worked for a fat old geezer like me, i am pretty sure it will work wonders for you. Good Luck!!
 
did you get a meter with the gli? you should ask if you didn't as you qualify for one and strips..either way, you need a meter a lot use htttp://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm and http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php for how to blood test, try and keep your meals under 2mm rise at 2hr

being on gli, you will need to drop slowly and may need to reduce dose with nurses help when you get too low
you may find even the sweet potato has to go, I cut all grain=rice etc, grain product=bread pasta etc, starch veg=potato corn etc, sugary stuff fruit and juice
it’s a long page and a video http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf For me, the more carbs we eat the more carbs we want. they don’t give up easy.http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/firstweek.htm
 
@Tricia15

Hello Tricia and welcome to the forum Sounds like you are making a good start. Here is the information we give to new members which @daddys1 recommended. I hope you will find it useful and will ask lots of questions. There's usually someone who can help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Tricia welcome to the forum.
 
Hi Tricia,and welcome
Hope you soon feel beter.there are lots of people to help and support here.
 

Hi Neil thanks for the advice! My nurse said to take blood first thing in the morning then 2 hours my evening meal. Just every other day until we get them down.

Luckily I enjoy veg and fruit but especially the spuds! Will remember that tip about the above the ground veg. Will help me decide which I can have and which to avoid. Love all the salad stuff too! My Dad and two of my brothers are also diabetic too. Dad was the first to get it around the age of 60, and he found it hard at first. Always had porridge and wholemeal bread, which he hated! Also 'sod it days' when he let himself have treats. Been trying to remember back.

Will have a chat with the nurse, seeing her on Thursday this week Thanks for your help

Tricia
 
Hi Tricia,
The idea with regards to testing is to see what foods you can and cannot eat, if you test in the morning then only two hours after your main meal then you will have no idea what foods are spiking you through the day, if your figure don't go down how do you identify which are the foods to exclude.

That is why you need find out what your fasting is, I tend to do that just before breakfast, then 2 hrs after.

If your having cereal, Porridge Toast even wholemeal 2 slices will probably spike you, you are looking for a maximum rise of 2mmol/L between your first reading before eating and 2hrs.

If you do this for different meals once you know what you can eat safely without a big rise between testing just before a meal and testing 2 hrs after, then you do not have to test that food combination any more if it's within the limits.

Your looking for a maximum of 7.8

NICE recommended target blood glucose level ranges

Target Levels by TypeBefore meals
(post prandial) (pre prandial)2 hours after meals
Non-diabetic 4.0 to 5.9 mmol/L under 7.8 mmol/L
Type 2 diabetes 4 to 7 mmol/L under 8.5 mmol/L
Type 1 diabetes 4 to 7 mmol/L under 9 mmol/L

Have a good look round the site in particular this particular forum area you will get a lot of help there.
Type 2 Diabetes
Use this area of the forum for all discussion specifically relating to Type 2 Diabetes
Neil
 

I have been given a meter now to test my bloods with. Went to the nurse today and told her that I'd been on here and am being pro active with all the help and advice I've got since coming on here. That list of yours made me think that there wasn't much left for you to eat!! I will try and do as you suggest and thanks a lot for your reply.

Tricia
 

Wow, thanks for that list Daisy. I will be coming back and making sure that I read and follow the links you've provided. I'm hoping that I'll find some of the answers that I'm looking for. Thanks again, Tricia
 
Hi to Snowy, Patricia21 and Bluetit1802. Thanks for your welcome and the link you've recommended. Will follow it all up and make notes!
 
I'm glad you have the meter, how many strips a month did you get?
it does look bad as a list but there is a world of food to eat,

it’s a long page and a few good video’s
http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf
For me, the more carbs we eat the more carbs we want. they don’t give up easy and the first 3 days suck
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/firstweek.htm
 
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