Hello... please be patient with me.

AndBreathe · Apr 4, 2015

Robinredbreast said:
Sounds as though a lot of hurt and anger is coming out there. Yes diabetes can be a huge pain and some younger people, like yourself can have a burnout and find it so hard with frustration and just 'want' to be 'normal' Your statement about type 2 is not helping anyone and true, many, many members have admitted being overweight or obese, with a terrible diet and lack of exercise and have managed to turn their life around with big changes, but not all are over weight at all.
When you are in a dark place, you mind isn't thinking straight and one thing on top of another can soon spill over, a simmering volcano I call it, but please try not to let it happen. Try and turn the negatives into a positive, you are in charge of the big D, don't let it be a burden or let it take over, a swift kick up the backside from time to time can work wonders.

This is a link on the forum, that I hope will be helpful and beneficial to you.:-

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/diabetes-burnout.74048/

All the best RRB

Robin, whilst I read @Lee Riley 's subsequent post, it hardly constitutes a true apology when you read the follow up sentences - "........I can't help but see the majority of Type 2s as an avoidable condition that has an effect on Type 1 care due to costs. Obviously Type 1 Diabetes is unavoidable as it is autoimmune whereas the majority of Type 2 Diabetics can avoid such illness through lifestyle changes......."

Personally, I don't see much genuine contrition there.

Spiker · Apr 4, 2015

Lee Riley said:
I suffer with long term depression (surprise surprise, **** world n' all) and it's dramatically impacting on my Diabetes. I've had Diabetes for a long time and I feel that my Diagnosis at 3 changed me quite considerably (according to my parents) but over the years though my control has not been strict, it hasn't been horrendous either. Recently my mood has lifted and for the past 2 or so days my glucose control has actually been decent. Deceivingly, my hba1c looks good, but isn't, because its usually calculated and averages out a whole bunch of up and down blood sugars. Prior to the last 2-3 days I was low one minute and high the next, with hypo-awareness taking a drastic knock, so much so that at 1.8, I felt almost normal (notice issues like dull persistent headache or focus differences between the left and right eye when reading, helps me discover low glucose).

Lee you have got a high level of awareness about your condition. For example, the relationship between depression and poor control, and the fact that your Hba1c gives a misleading impression of your control. Have you discussed these things with your diabetes team? I think they would be understanding of both issues, and be able to give concrete support.

AndBreathe · Apr 4, 2015

Robinredbreast said:
I for one am not upset , so it's best to move on. Here is a young man with admitted depression and many younger Type 1's go through this, as I have seen so much on the forum.
Hopefully the OP will be able to smooth things out and he can then find some peace.within himself.

Best wishes RRB

Robin, I'm pleased you are happy with Lee's apology and are happy to move on, but, with respect, you are not in the group he insulted, then followed up with hollow words, chased with a reinforcement of his ignorance and intolerance.

Lee may be young, but that doesn't make bad manners or a lack of respect any more acceptable in my book.

I suggest you carefully read what has been written by all parties.

Pipp · Apr 4, 2015

AndBreathe said:
Robin, I'm pleased you are happy with Lee's apology and are happy to move on, but, with respect, you are not in the group he insulted, then followed up with hollow words, chased with a reinforcement of his ignorance and intolerance.

Lee may be young, but that doesn't make bad manners or a lack of respect any more acceptable in my book.

I suggest you carefully read what has been written by all parties.

Well done @Lee Riley then. Testing the limits of everyone's patience. Especially the T2s.

gemma6549 · Apr 4, 2015

I think the fact he apologised for his dislikes being offensive is all he can really do. He can't change the fact he said it and a number of people have seen it now.
Doesn't mean his opinion is going to change and we can't crucify him for that, there is no right or wrong when it comes to opinion.

As already said by others he could've been more sensitive to others and not expressed it, but we can't change that now.

Let's just see if we can help someone who is clearly unhappy and struggling with their problems.

Robinredbreast · Apr 4, 2015

AndBreathe said:
Robin, I'm pleased you are happy with Lee's apology and are happy to move on, but, with respect, you are not in the group he insulted, then followed up with hollow words, chased with a reinforcement of his ignorance and intolerance.

Lee may be young, but that doesn't make bad manners or a lack of respect any more acceptable in my book.

I suggest you carefully read what has been written by all parties.

Tbh I think if anyone finds the OP's post offensive then please go through the proper channel's. and report it. It's not about a 'them and us and I have read, so please do not patronise me with your replies, thank you.
The OP has let off quite a lot of steam, and do hope he at least comes back and then answer all the questions.

AndBreathe said:
Robin, whilst I read @Lee Riley 's subsequent post, it hardly constitutes a true apology when you read the follow up sentences - "........I can't help but see the majority of Type 2s as an avoidable condition that has an effect on Type 1 care due to costs. Obviously Type 1 Diabetes is unavoidable as it is autoimmune whereas the majority of Type 2 Diabetics can avoid such illness through lifestyle changes......."

Personally, I don't see much genuine contrition there.

Well maybe the best way to go is through the correct channels and report the OP's posts and hopefully he will be back to answer some of the questions.

Best wishes RRB

Brunneria · Apr 4, 2015

gemma6549 said:
Let's just see if we can help someone who is clearly unhappy and struggling with their problems.

I can't help wondering if you are a primary school teacher?

Pipp · Apr 4, 2015

gemma6549 said:
I think the fact he apologised for his dislikes being offensive is all he can really do. He can't change the fact he said it and a number of people have seen it now.
Doesn't mean his opinion is going to change and we can't crucify him for that, there is no right or wrong when it comes to opinion.

As already said by others he could've been more sensitive to others and not expressed it, but we can't change that now.

Let's just see if we can help someone who is clearly unhappy and struggling with their problems.

@gemma6549
Have a look at post #3 in this thread.
Now tell me, is this really an apology?

I think the apology is for something that he has deleted from his profile. Not for anything in his posts. Apologising is not the only thing he can do. He can delete the prejudiced offensive stuff from post #3. So he can change things.

Want to to see if you can help someone who is clearly unhappy and struggling with problems? There are plenty of deserving cases.

Oh, and I meant what I said about him not being the only one depressed too.

gemma6549 · Apr 4, 2015

Brunneria said:
I can't help wondering if you are a primary school teacher?

Why because I'm nice and don't get offended by every last thing someone says!!

This is irrelevant to the post.

gemma6549 · Apr 4, 2015

Pipp said:
@gemma6549
Have a look at post #3 in this thread.
Now tell me, is this really an apology?

I think the apology is for something that he has deleted from his profile. Not for anything in his posts. Apologising is not the only thing he can do. He can delete the prejudiced offensive stuff from post #3. So he can change things.

Want to to see if you can help someone who is clearly unhappy and struggling with problems? There are plenty of deserving cases.

Oh, and I meant what I said about him not being the only one depressed too.

He may well delete/edit it but I don't think he has been back on again yet.

Pipp · Apr 4, 2015

Respect to those of the opinion that post #3 is not offensive. It is divisive.
Perhaps that is what OP intended.

gemma6549 · Apr 4, 2015

Pipp said:
Respect to those of the opinion that post #3 is not offensive. It is divisive.
Perhaps that is what OP intended.

You never know, the fact that he's not back yet means he may just be sitting back and watching it all unfold

Pipp · Apr 4, 2015

Well, patience is a virtue, so I will patiently wait to see what happens next. (Virtuously).

Robinredbreast · Apr 4, 2015

This thread is getting out of hand, it's the OP that needs to come back and answer some questions, lets hope he does sooner, rather than later.
Has he been taking his medication, is it a black dog day? frustrating, anger, depression in younger people make say and do things, so after some 'time out' from the thread, lets hope he has had some calming reflective moments to answer the questions asked.
Regards RRB

catherinecherub · Apr 4, 2015

I am locking this thread as it is going nowhere.
If the O.P. does come back then he can ask to have it opened again and maybe he will be willing to answer his critics as nobody can apologise on his behalf.
Depression is not reserved for anyone in particular and can strike anyone at any age regardless of their status, medical conditions and life style.

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