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Hi - newly diagnosed t2

Redamber

Member
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Just a quick hello post. I'm in the Derbyshire area, newly diagnosed with t2 and a carer for my husband (recovering from cancer) as well as a voluntary worker.

My diabetes risk has always been high, thanks to family history and PCOS so my recent diagnosis is a slight shock but not totally unexpected in spite of my efforts to avoid it with exercise and healthy diet!

I've been veggie since I was around 18 (now in my late 40s) and love to swim and walk out in the gorgeous Peak District. I also hope to get back to running again once I get my 'get up and go' back
 
Hello @Redamber and Welcome to the Forum . @daisy1 will provide you with some basic information that all New Members receive on joining the Forum.
 

Hi Redamber, I too am a veggie (no meat, fish, seafood or substitute) from the age of 13 and am now 53 and struggling to find interesting low carb meals that are not similar, knowledge is clearly the key. Mine is mostly down to genetics - diabetes and glaucoma on my fathers side and high blood pressure on my mothers and now cataracts, always been healthy up to a month ago when diagnosed. I was overwhelmed at first and in denial but a month in I understand it a lot more and determined to not let it beat me but still learning.
Tracy
 

Hi and welcome,

I cannot tell you how many newly diagnosed arrive her and say they have a healthy diet. There are many. Sadly, what is healthy according to the NHS isn't really healthy for those at risk of diabetes, or with diabetes. I expect you eat wholemeal foods, plenty of fruit, porridge, muesli, everything low fat, and so forth? Sadly, almost all these foods convert to glucose once inside the system , which is the opposite of what we need, and fruit is something we need to be very careful of because of the fructose, especially juices.

Cutting/reducing carbohydrate consumption, including the wholemeal versions, is the way to go. That means increasing fats to make up the energy deficit. You can do this by ditching any low fat product you have in favour of the real thing. This is turning the NHS guidelines upside down, but it is what works.

My first suggestion is that you buy yourself a glucose meter and begin to learn what your food choices are doing to your blood sugar levels, and from that you can begin to tweak your choices and portion sizes.

I'm tagging @daisy1 who has some excellent information for newcomers. Meanwhile, have a good read round the forums and learn as much as you can about Type 2 diabetes.
 

Guys, I just thought I'd mention there is a veggie area in the forum, with a good number of active vegetarian and vegan members. It's here, if you'd like to have a look: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/vegetarian-diet-forum.71/
 

I've met cliched assumptions about vegetarians a lot over the decades... we're not all wholemeal/'knit your own muesli' types ;-) I've been veggie a *long* time - going back to the mid-80s when that meant regular trips to health food shops and wholemeal everything. What I mean by a healthy diet is a balanced diet, but with the provisos below...

Personally, I'm an 'eat as many veg as I can' kind of lass - especially since we grow quite a lot in our garden. I also love to cook and prefer to make things from scratch rather than relying on food manufacturers not to overdo the sugar/salt (which they invariably do). I already have to avoid carbs as my husband's recovering from laryngeal cancer and most carbs still either stick to his throat or leave him feeling like they've stuck (because of nerve damage after radiotherapy). We don't have fruit juice or fruit as a rule, since those are problematic for him cos of being acidic. We don't take sugar but instead use granulated sucralose sweetener to make tea/coffee etc palatable. We've really had to rethink what we eat since his radiotherapy about two and a half years ago and luckily the things he can't eat are much the same as the things I also need to avoid. My GP surgery did talk about LCHF as an option that works well, but I was nervous about it because of familial issues with cholesterol. I guess I'm kind of 'lucky' (in a warped kind of way) to have grown up with diabetic grandparents so I wasn't totally in the dark, plus my husband's health means carbs have to be really restricted and last but not least a GP surgery that mentions things like LCHF.

I also try to eat as much protein as I can since I've found eating that and plenty of non-starchy veg is what leaves me feeling full and not wanting to snack on sugary things. If I do get the snacking urge, then I tend to grab a handful of nuts or seeds. I also find that protein fuels me nicely for exercise. I'm far from being a gym bunny but I do love to walk and am aiming to get back to running and swimming again, as well as other hobbies such as Historical European Martial Arts once my get up and go hasn't got up and gone (as it has for the past few months).

I made sure I got a glucose monitor from my GP surgery and am gradually working out what foods seem to affect me the worst so I can act on that information. The downside is the *bruising* I'm getting when I do the tests, as I've always bruised easily and that's got worse with healing being noticeable slower for the past few months. Working out how to reduce the bruising problem would be a boon. It's making me really self-conscious!

On the whole I'm feeling positive and exploring what works for me and what doesn't. Just having an answer to why I've been feeling so tired out has already helped a great deal. Thanks for replying and making suggestions. It's good to have options to think over and people interested in helping while I'm still learning how to deal with this!
 
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@Redamber

Hello Redamber and welcome to the Forum Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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