Jenny15
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I wrote in a thread about donating blood, because doing that can increase the risk of teeth falling out in diabetics (apparently).
I think that aspect of my post is probably better dealt with in the blood donation thread because the comment was made there. It's the first I've ever heard about it. I don't know that diabetes > blood donation > teeth falling out but I do know that diabetes can > periodontal disease, can > eventual tooth loss. So I felt it was an important topic to raise here.I'd love to see the evidence or even an article that mentions it. I've looked, without success.
Well, I haven't donated blood, but the gum disease is diabetes related, or so my dentist told meI think that aspect of my post is probably better dealt with in the blood donation thread because the comment was made there. It's the first I've ever heard about it. I don't know that diabetes > blood donation > teeth falling out but I do know that diabetes can > periodontal disease, can > eventual tooth loss. So I felt it was an important topic to raise here.
Dentists, like optometrists, often detect diabetes that a GP didn't bother to test for.Well, I haven't donated blood, but the gum disease is diabetes related, or so my dentist told me
gum disease is diabetes related, or so my dentist told me
I think that aspect of my post is probably better dealt with in the blood donation thread because the comment was made there.
id love to read that article. its spot onYour dentist is spot on. The following from an article "Diabetes and gum disease: the diabolic duo"
Diabetes and periodontitis have long been linked in the dental literature but have never been substantiated. Periodontitis is an oral infection affecting the tooth-supporting tissues. Although the etiology for this condition is bacterial plaque, the host immune response may also mediate destruction of the periodontal tissues. Diabetes mellitus is intricately related to the development, progression and severity of periodontitis. The literature is abundant with studies depicting this association.
Luckily my dentist and hygienist discussed this with me some time ago.
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/blood-donation-with-diabetes.148423/#post-1795630Sorry, couldn't find it and I used the search box at the top.
My dentist was spot on whenever she opened her (own) mouth! My GP, however, didn't know. Sad to say I can't afford the dentist anymore, so a couple of months ago, when I had an acute and painful problem, my DYI husband fixed it with a dental syringe and some chlorhexidine.Your dentist is spot on. The following from an article "Diabetes and gum disease: the diabolic duo"
Diabetes and periodontitis have long been linked in the dental literature but have never been substantiated. Periodontitis is an oral infection affecting the tooth-supporting tissues. Although the etiology for this condition is bacterial plaque, the host immune response may also mediate destruction of the periodontal tissues. Diabetes mellitus is intricately related to the development, progression and severity of periodontitis. The literature is abundant with studies depicting this association.
Luckily my dentist and hygienist discussed this with me some time ago.
Edit: I read some guidelines and came across a mention of having work done to your teeth. Apparently if you are diabetic and you give blood your teeth may fall out. I think.
How much is gum disease a given to diabetics, is it a direct response to diabetes or something often associated with diabetes?
Absolutely its helpful information thanks for sharing, I for one certainly will take this on board without doubt.Here's something I wrote in a thread about donating blood, because doing that can increase the risk of teeth falling out in diabetics (apparently).
Periodontal (gum) disease is a major risk for many diabetics. It's irreversible once it's progressed to a certain point. I only found this out once mine had gone too far. I was pretty angry with my dentists for never mentioning it.
What happens is that high BG changes the environment in your mouth so that it becomes a tooth decay-promoting environment. Periodontal disease is caused by a very very low grade infection. It's pretty pointless trying to treat it with antibiotics. The only real way to prevent PD and it progression is to have fastidious dental hygiene practices.
Most people aren't aware of its importance and don't have the energy to get it right year in and year out.
The Pam Ayers poem I Wish I'd Looked After My Teeth springs to mind.
There are other contributing factors to PD, such as needing medications that cause dry mouth. Saliva is protective of the teeth and gums. Saliva substitute products aren't very good. I sip water all the time. Other factors are smoking and heavy drinking.
The end point of PD is that the retreat of the gums away from the teeth exposes nerve endings and you get real pain if these areas are accidentally touched. I need local anaesthetic around all of my teeth just to get them cleaned every 6 months.
Eventually if you don't arrest the progression the retreat of the gums allows the infection to microscopically eat away at the face or jaw bone that holds each tooth snugly in place.
Teeth get loose and eventually they can fall out or have to be removed.
This is why some people have no or missing teeth. If they are unable to afford dentures or more expensive solutions, they stay that way. It is very sad because often they got PD through no fault of their own. Like me, they weren't told. They may also have mental or financial difficulties that become barriers to home care and regular dental care. Missing teeth can make it harder to get a job, so it is a vicious cycle.
I hope this info is helpful to someone out there.
Yes. DN told me it's too much glucose in the blood stream. It isn't. It's too much glucose in your whole body. Wish dentist had thought to suggest the possibility of diabetes when I had a bad tooth infection a few years back though.My understanding is that when we have high BG, especially for a prolonged period, our bodies look for ways to get rid of the sugar and "squirts" it out through most possible means: this is why weeing is a common symptom of diabetes; but so is gum disease as the sugar is coming out in our saliva.
I also found my tears tasted sweet when I was first diagnosed.
That sounds awful. Mine was nowhere near as bad.I lost three teeth to sudden abscesses, by this I mean that I would ring to ask for an appointment in the morning because I was getting a twinge in a tooth. By the afternoon I was begging for an emergency appointment because I was in agony. I often wonder if this was a symptom of my diabetes. I have partial dentures now and I am very careful to clean them and my teeth after every meal. So far I've had no further problems.
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