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Increasing obesity pushes diabetes drug bill to £600m

And what about the people who smoke their entire lives and don't get lung cancer? Or the alcoholics who never develop liver disease?

Does that mean smoking doesn't cause lung cancer and heavy drinking doesn't wreck livers?

No. It does not.
 
UPB
I have spent half my life trying to get my weight down. I eat sparingly and low carb, I exercise in classes several times a week, I hike. I use my feet as my main means of travel. If you have the simple answer to why my weight is static,( you seem to have simple answers) Please let me know. Don't give me the "calories in" and "calories out" guff. It's not working.
Hana
 

UPB, you have already made up your mind, why let research and scientific fact get in the way of your prejudices about T2 diabetics? Your attitude is insulting and downright offensive.
 
Would just like to say that as a diet and exercise only T2, I don't find these comments offensive at all. Would I swap my situation with UPB's? Of course not.

Becoming overweight/obese is bad for many aspects of our health.

It may be that T2s have a greater tendancy to gain weight - but the fact remains that we are all in charge of what we put into our mouths. Nobody suddenly becomes obese, and a set of ordinary scales are not expensive.

It is within everyone's ability to moniter their weight and adjust what they eat before it becomes a serious problem. Getting into the obese range is down to the person - they are not enslaved by their genes, even if they do make weight control more difficult for them.
 
but the fact remains that we are all in charge of what we put into our mouths. Nobody suddenly becomes obese, and a set of ordinary scales are not expensive.

Sense.

Yes loosing weight is harder for some people than it is others.
But eating 5,000 calories a day and never moving from the sofa is not going to make you healthy.
It is going to make you put on weight.

The amount of people who are seriously, morbidly obese in this country...
Always down to a 'condition' or 'genetics'.
There would be a lot less if more people ate healthily and exercised more.
 
What does healthily mean? This is the whole point. Is the advise we've been taking for decades helping us, or hindering us? What if it's the food that we're eating that causes the problem? (I used to practically live off pasta and wholemeal bread, because we were told that it was "healthy", and could only lose (tiny amounts) of weight eating this food if I ate pitifully small portions).

It's getting to a point where I wish I didn't have to eat at all.
 
I added a comment to the timesonline article. I have said that the Governments healthy eating advice is a major contributory factor to the problem.

The rise in obesity and diabetes is multifactorial. We are eating much more calories from omega six oils and refined carbohydrate than we were in the 1970s. Most of this gain is thought to be from fast food. Just about everything else is the same. We eat about the same amount of meat overall but less beef and more chicken. We eat about the same amount of fruit and vegetables. We drink less milk but eat more cheese. We do much less physical activity. Central heating is now commonplace. Those who are working have less leisure time. We spend more time at computers and watching television.

It is certainly easier to put weight on than lose it in our obesogenic environment.

I was reading Bryon Richard's Mastering Leptin. He explains that overweight people have a disordered hormonal environment. They have less Grehlin in the stomach before eating than thin people but that once they start eating it takes much longer for the Grehlin to come back down to normal. They get the urge to eat earlier than thin people and their brain doesn't get the message that the stomach is full till a lot later than thin people. The reason why they eat is because they are hungry. As we all know, it is terribly difficult to ignore food if you are hungry.
 
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14046739.php

I am not overweight and my neuropathy wasn't even linked to diabetes by my GP when I was diagnosed with diabetes . if Type 2 was caused by being overweight there wouldn't be any normal weight Type 2s .

There also seems to be some sort of link betweeen Type 2 and PCBs ( apparently fat people without Type 2 havd no or little PCB's in their bodies ) see http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/diabetes-diabetesrisk-heart-disease-obesity-pcbs.html and http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jan2008/2008-01-25-04.asp
 
More links to PCBs suggest that they reduce levels of adiponectin http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v32/n12/abs/ijo2008169a.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adiponectin
 
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