Just-a-little-prick
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The reason he probably refers to T2 is because if you have T2 you are definitely insulin resistant.Too much insulin causes insulin resistance". 2] He refers, more than once, only to Type II diabetes.
I really appreciate your well-considered reply to my post, Cat. Thank you. You have some interesting concepts - though I don't agree with all of them.The reason he probably refers to T2 is because if you have T2 you are definitely insulin resistant.
T2 is insulin resistance, our bodies resist the action of our insulin, our blood sugar remains higher than it should be so our pancreas is forced to produce more insulin just to get the blood sugar into normal range.
There are many theories on what causes insulin resistance, a popular one often repeated by the media is that it's caused by fat, so by eating the same diet as everyone else we have caused our own problems. What about the 10% of T2's who are not overweight, well they must be thin on the outside but fat on the inside, or perhaps Dr Jason Fung's idea could make sense.
Insulin resistance causes our pancreas to produce more and more of the fat storage hormone insulin. Our insulin struggles to make the glucose available for our bodies to use for energy so it has no option but to store it as fat, the high levels of insulin and the storage of fat makes us even more resistant to insulin.
High carb diet = high blood sugar= high insulin levels = fat storage and insulin resistance
Dr Jason Fung's solution is to combine intermittent fasting with a low carb diet. When we fast the stores of glucose get used up first, when that's reduced our pancreas can take a break from churning out insulin so as our sugar levels fall so does our insulin levels, without the presence of the fat storage hormone we can now use our fat stores for fuel.
Fasting + low carb = low blood sugar= low insulin= fat burning+ improving insulin resistance
Now T1's who don't have any functioning beta cells obviously have their own set of problems and I don't think Dr Jason Fung's books or videos are particularly aimed at T1's being mainly about obesity and insulin resistance. Although having T1 will not mean you are immune from insulin resistance. Whatever has caused me to become resistant to insulin can affect anyone else and I would have thought that the same principles apply.
High carb diet = high blood sugar= a higher insulin requirement
Lower carb. = Lower blood sugar= less insulin required
Thanks, Jonathan - I can understand your explanation that the insulin 'starts in the wrong place' because it is injected into the outer skin (not, to be fair, necessarily into 'fat'). I don't think that "some gets to the pancreas" is part of the physiology, though. My pancreas, like most Type 1's, is non-functioning after all these years.My understanding ...
Working beta cells in pancreas produce insulin, acts on alpha cells to reduce glucagon production, remaining insulin down portal vein to liver and reduces glucose production, what's left goes to general circulation and rest of the body.
Type 1 no/low insulin from beta cells in pancreas due to destruction. Insulin injected into fat, gets into general circulation, from there some gets to the liver and some gets to the pancreas. The insulin starts in the wrong place so will be at a higher level in the general circulation. You will have more insulin in the general circulation to get the same effect on the liver and alpha cells in the pancreas
alpha cells producing glucagon still function ... beta cells which would produce insulin killed by immune systemMy pancreas, like most Type 1's, is non-functioning after all these years.
Most if not all newly diagnosed T2's have high insulin levels and high blood sugar levels, if they did not have insulin resistance that extra insulin would cause low blood sugar.For example, you say "if you have T2 you are definitely insulin resistant". I don't think that follows. The treatment of Type 2, such as dietary control and Metformin, are based merely on your pancreas not producing sufficient insulin for your body's needs
You refer to insulin as "the fat storage hormone". That's an interesting concept - but a bit of a stretch! At best it is a description of the consequences of poor blood sugar control. It is not the normal function of the hormone.
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