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Hi bluetit diets are so confusing , all of them for some ...they are for me ..I suggested RCIF near the beginning of this thread, and stand by it. (Reduced carbs/increased fats) Newbies don't know what low carb means --- how low is low is asked many a time, never mind all the confusion over fats..
It's not something I particularly enjoy,
I use the George Foreman, and this is the amount of fat squeezed out when I cooked 3 decent sausages this morning. This isn't a lot compared to others.
Now, personally, I think the remaining fat is more than enough for me.
But that's my taste, I know others on here advocate frying them in butter.
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Sorry but no one could ever convice me eating the fat on meat is nice I actually had roast lamb on Sunday but I cut off the fat always have done always will I just don't like the taste of it
Was that the guy that played the Riddler in Batman?They say you should never interfere in a "domestic" since all that will happen is the family members will see you as a common enemy and all of them will turn against you. So I stayed out of this one but now I find, seeing the photo from @douglas99 that I should state my position, put my tin hat on and drink the other bottle and maybe it won't hurt.
There was a scare years ago where salt was seen as a bad thing. The actual scare was about "excessive" salt but that didn't stop people from trying to avoid salt altogether. One lad at work passed out a couple of times because his wife made sure he never had any salt. People need salt to live. This illustrated to me that people jack up any advice they get from scare tactics by the media. Also, some unscrupulous food manufacturers capitalise on fear. Low fat, no salt, no sugar, free range and on and on. It sells stuff.
So how do I interpret HF? I just forget everything the low fat culture indoctrinated me with. I have full fat milk if I want. I have butter on my new potatoes. I don't get anal about cutting fat off of lamb. Anything in the supermarket that has low fat printed on the package is put back on the shelf since the manufacturer has probably replaced the fat with sugar. I remember that fat can cut the GI of some foods and have managed the odd dumpling as a result.
There never was any suggestion that I had to stuff blocks of fat into my mouth. Just don't be frightened of fat since there has never been a causal link between fat and heart disease according to Dr. Kendrick.
Low carb (LC). I was issued with my meter six months before I joined this forum. I became aware that if I ate anything with flour or sugar in it then I couldn't acquit my orders which required that I control my blood sugars. I cut back severely on such foods and got low BS numbers. This was entirely logical to me and I was at a loss to understand why it was not general knowledge.
I found this forum which had made similar discoveries and I stayed. There were the proactive members who dealt with lowering their carbs with scales and ate a stated or lesser amount of carbs every day. There were the reactive members who read their BS after eating and adjusted future meals accordingly. Both were doing the same thing by different methods but they wanted to argue about which was best.
This brought to mind the old Star Trek episode where two men were at war since one was black on his left side and the black on his right side.
There are other diets but I haven't tried them and they have their advocates and providing those advocates do not knock on my door and try to tell me I should think like them then they are welcome to their beliefs.
I haven't read the rest of the posts yet but I disagree strongly with aspects of your post. I was in a state of panic when I found out I had diabetes and wanted to act immediately. Everyone deals with things differently. Some people want to know straight away so they can act. I was extremely glad that @Totto posted her advice as I was sitting there in tears not knowing what to do. The only advice the doc had given me was to stay away from sugars foods and to go on the Nhs backed diabetes website. According to that site no food is forbidden, cakes can be made with half the sugar, etc and everyone should eat the eat well plate. I think the advice is dangerous and irresponsible with no scientific evidence as to why it's a good idea to eat starchy carbs with every meal (especially as they turn into sugar which enters the blood stream and consequently raises the bs thus negating the effects of the medicine - why would you want to do that or why would you even give this advice!) .if I had a pound for every member who has posted about following the Nhs advice and then finding their condition worsening I'd be a rich woman! All the science is there on the diet doc website if people bother to read it rather than criticise it. It has proved a life changer for me and it has not only improved my life but my family's lives as well. Weight loss is a huge benefit but it's great for people who are diabetic and don't need to lose weight or non diabetics full stop. I could have just ignored your post and smiled smugly but I felt I had a duty to others to comment. Perhaps you should try it before criticising it.I am confused to why a LCHF weight diet seems to be the answer to the long term control to Diabetes. High fat and heart problems comes more to mind.
When a member on this forum says our or your Doctor is incorrect to her Patient, a Patient we do not even know or have any in-house information is Dangerous and beyond belief.
Maybe it is just me being just being a little unfair, yet when a new member gets a welcome from @daisy1, before or after comes the LCHF diet recommendation's, it just seems wrong not to give the new member a chance to make sense of the forum and what it is all about.
Come to think about it maybe the system could be set up that new members get the welcomes firstly from Daisy1 and Admin;to ensure a better start.
Sorry in advance if I have offended any member, it is that something is not adding up
We just can't generalise
Me said:To put it simply, we are all different.
Where we are similar, generally, is that the majority of those of us who have had success in reducing our blood sugars have done the following:
1) Test before eating anything
2) Test again, 1 hour after, and 2 hours after.
3) Decide upon an acceptable blood sugar reading
4) If the food you eat is causing a result above your personal acceptable reading, then go to step one, changing what you eat.
5) Repeat until you know what foods cause you to spike.
6) Stop eating these foods.
7) Continue to do this over the course of a month, and you will be surprised at the results.
Your meter may tell you that the things you like are bad, when this happens, you have to decide whether:
a) I will eat these, running the risk of premature blindness, amputation, and kidney disease
or
b) that these foods are simply not worth the risk.
There is nothing wrong with constructive criticism. @Scandichic you of all members should know that.I haven't read the rest of the posts yet but I disagree strongly with aspects of your post. I was in a state of panic when I found out I had diabetes and wanted to act immediately. Everyone deals with things differently. Some people want to know straight away so they can act. I was extremely glad that @Totto posted her advice as I was sitting there in tears not knowing what to do. The only advice the doc had given me was to stay away from sugars foods and to go on the Nhs backed diabetes website. According to that site no food is forbidden, cakes can be made with half the sugar, etc and everyone should eat the eat well plate. I think the advice is dangerous and irresponsible with no scientific evidence as to why it's a good idea to eat starchy carbs with every meal (especially as they turn into sugar which enters the blood stream and consequently raises the bs thus negating the effects of the medicine - why would you want to do that or why would you even give this advice!) .if I had a pound for every member who has posted about following the Nhs advice and then finding their condition worsening I'd be a rich woman! All the science is there on the diet doc website if people bother to read it rather than criticise it. It has proved a life changer for me and it has not only improved my life but my family's lives as well. Weight loss is a huge benefit but it's great for people who are diabetic and don't need to lose weight or non diabetics full stop. I could have just ignored your post and smiled smugly but I felt I had a duty to others to comment. Perhaps you should try it before criticising it.
Please understand that I cannot get to grips with the word "high fat" ( to me it is like telling a smoker to smoke more cigarettes to get healthy, or drink more alcohol to sober up ) hence getting the correct message out to newbies that will not confuse them.Simple as that
Exactly why I prefer the word you used "healthy fats" just look at "high fat" image on Google, then look at "healthy fat" image.That is a REALLY poor and un-constructive comparison.
If you 'can't get your head around' something, then the problem is in your comprehension, rather than in the information itself.
There is masses (and more by the week!) information on how low fat advice is no longer valid.
And increasing amounts of information on the benefits of increasing healthy fats, especially when restricting carbs.
If you choose not to 'get your head around it' then that is your choice. But it in no way invalidates the range of options and personal experiences offered by members who can get their head around it.
Exactly why I prefer the word you used "healthy fats" just look at "high fat" image on Google, then look at "healthy fat" image.
Have you noticed that many members have now used words like healthy fats,moderate fats and lean fats etc; instead of "high fats"
The members that can get their heads round the LCHF is not the problem.
It is the new people that may get the wrong message from miss understanding what is written from some LCHF members.
Can I go back to my cage please before you throw me in it,
I am struggling to get my head around the oxymoron "lean fats"Exactly why I prefer the word you used "healthy fats" just look at "high fat" image on Google, then look at "healthy fat" image.
Have you noticed that many members have now used words like healthy fats,moderate fats and lean fats etc; instead of "high fats"
The members that can get their heads round the LCHF is not the problem.
It is the new people that may get the wrong message from miss understanding what is written from some LCHF members.
Can I go back to my cage please before you throw me in it,
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