Longsightedness suddenly much worse...?

Julie702 · Sep 21, 2014

Not just long sight for me, my close sight prescription changed also and it having both messed up was difficult as I work with a screen and couldn't see anything. My short sight was fixed and doesn't seem to have varied since so that is a blessing.

I don't see a diabetic nurse for another 3 weeks and that will be 2 months since diagnosis. Doctor gave me no information at all, so like many I am 'forum educated' and probably all the better for it, lol

colmac · Sep 22, 2014

I must admit my impression of the support provided by the GP and the diabetes nurse is not great so far. The 'diabetes pack' they gave me included a magazine sponsored by Tesco (no conflict of interest there!) which seemed to advocate eating huge amounts of carbs, desserts and all manner of other Tesco products.

I saw the nurse about a week after diagnosis by which time I was feeling quite positive - I had already dramatically changed my diet, lost about 1Kg in weight and reduced my blood sugar from 16 to 6. I came out of the session feeling like I was doomed and would inevitably suffer heart attack, blindness and amputation and that I may as well hole up in a shack with a canister of insulin and 20 kilos of galaxy while waiting for premature death. I'm not going back - at least, not to see that particular nurse.

Julie702 · Sep 22, 2014

Dibbles1 said:
Erm! How do I put this politely…. You'll soon get used to the fact that the NHS and many diabetes nurses can be, um, well, useless

@Dibbles1 Love your signature, lol

Julie702 · Sep 22, 2014

colmac said:
I must admit my impression of the support provided by the GP and the diabetes nurse is not great so far. The 'diabetes pack' they gave me included a magazine sponsored by Tesco (no conflict of interest there!) which seemed to advocate eating huge amounts of carbs, desserts and all manner of other Tesco products.

I saw the nurse about a week after diagnosis by which time I was feeling quite positive - I had already dramatically changed my diet, lost about 1Kg in weight and reduced my blood sugar from 16 to 6. I came out of the session feeling like I was doomed and would inevitably suffer heart attack, blindness and amputation and that I may as well hole up in a shack with a canister of insulin and 20 kilos of galaxy while waiting for premature death. I'm not going back - at least, not to see that particular nurse.

I can't say I'm looking forward to my first appointment with the diabetic nurse. I'd cancel but I feel that I probably need to go so that I get on the relevant lists for eye checks etc. My plan if the nurse is evangelical about the nhs method of combating t2 is to state my case (lchf) once and then just agree politely from there if we don't agree. I'll then leave and manage my condition myself with help from this forum.

Unfortunately I'll be going in with preconceived ideas about what to expect. Perhaps I'll be proven wrong

I was given the same scary scenario when I told a doctor that my vision was blurry - she said I should have it checked urgently as my eyes might be permanently damaged. Very alarming! (But wrong)

Mmmm Galaxy...

colmac · Sep 23, 2014

So, on the eyesight thing - since my eyesight cleared up after strenuous exercise at the weekend I was wondering if it was due to dehydration. This kind of makes sense to me. If my eye lenses have too much sugar in their fluid then water would flow into them by osmosis, causing them to swell. Then if I sweat a lot and become generally dehydrated then this water would flow out again.

I noticed after a session in the gym today that me eyesight was a lot better when I got back to my desk. A couple of bottles of water later and it is blurry again.

Maybe it takes 6 weeks for the sugar to make it's way out of your eye lense. I guess it is not transported as easily as water.

It's a theory anyway.

manicarrie · Sep 24, 2014

colmac said:
So, on the eyesight thing - since my eyesight cleared up after strenuous exercise at the weekend I was wondering if it was due to dehydration. This kind of makes sense to me. If my eye lenses have too much sugar in their fluid then water would flow into them by osmosis, causing them to swell. Then if I sweat a lot and become generally dehydrated then this water would flow out again.

I noticed after a session in the gym today that me eyesight was a lot better when I got back to my desk. A couple of bottles of water later and it is blurry again.

Maybe it takes 6 weeks for the sugar to make it's way out of your eye lense. I guess it is not transported as easily as water.

It's a theory anyway.

Hi, I was told by my diabetic specialist that the sugar is not in the lens, but basically, it is kind of turning your blood into a nice thick syrup so to speak, and the blood vessels in the eyes are too small to cope with this, think McDonald's milkshake through a straw versus a fizzy drink and you get the idea x it can take 8-12 weeks for some of these sugars to leave your system, thats why we not only havento test daily, but why the HBA1c tests are dine to get a bigger picture of what has been going on x

colmac · Sep 24, 2014

I think the nurse was describing retinopathy, no?

manicarrie · Sep 24, 2014

She may have been, but in general blurry vision is also a short term effect of the diabetes, high blood, like the thirst and toilet trips. Retinopathy takes a while to develop, saying that it depends how long you were undiagnosed. You will get offered yearly tests as a matter of course, and our hospital clinic looks at the eyes as well. I would say if things make it worse, it's the temporary imbalance of the blood sugars, especially being newly diagnosed. Retinopathy tends to be a bit more permanent, if caught early enough though, it can be treated . Hope this helps

colmac said:
I think the nurse was describing retinopathy, no?

manicarrie · Sep 24, 2014

byw by saying if things nake iy worse, i was referring to where you said it went blurry after exercise etc

manicarrie said:
She may have been, but in general blurry vision is also a short term effect of the diabetes, high blood, like the thirst and toilet trips. Retinopathy takes a while to develop, saying that it depends how long you were undiagnosed. You will get offered yearly tests as a matter of course, and our hospital clinic looks at the eyes as well. I would say if things make it worse, it's the temporary imbalance of the blood sugars, especially being newly diagnosed. Retinopathy tends to be a bit more permanent, if caught early enough though, it can be treated . Hope this helps

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