Low Carb Diet and Cholesterol

hi,

i started low carbing in february and didnt take my statins for 3 months my chol went from 6. something to 4.3 and triglicerides drops too cant remember the numbers exactly but i was eating lots of fats and i do mean lots, i started taking my statins when i realised i may have a degree of CKD and since then my chol is 2.8 and tri`s are 0.7 from 1.9 i dont know if it was diet, exercise, low carbing or statins though or maybe a combination of all of them, but i have to put it down to low carbing in the main (opinion)

lol did i miss something suggesting carbs are good?

I've been looking at that, but I can't find any information at all on long term low carbs.
6 months seems to be the norm.
The only other conclusion appears to be after 12 months, most diets converge, and if you cut excesses, you always improve.

The other grey area is what is a low carb diet?
Low carb high fat?
Saturated, unsaturated?
Low carb, healthy fat?
Low carb. low fat?

Is it an all you can eat buffet on the bacon and fried eggs?
Or is it an oily fish diet?

I personally have gone for a classic "healthy" diet, and just go with being hungry occasionally!
But everything has equally improved in line with a "low carb" diet.

But I am avidly waiting for some long term results.

hasnt the classic diet been monumentally unsuccessful in general?

Andy12345 said:

hasnt the classic diet been monumentally unsuccessful in general?

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I can only speak for myself, I've lost 3 stone, got my morning bs to around 5, and my Ha1bc to "normal" levels.
But I do eat to my meter, I don't avoid carbs, but I avoid anything that spikes me.

I have looked for long term information on diets, and most end at 6 months.

If you have any links that show the classic diet been monumentally unsuccessful, I would really like to read them, as I am very interested in diets and nutrition in general.

im too stupid to have any research links mate, i couldnt read them if i knew where they were

I have been looking for a couple of years really, to find a diet I like.

I've not found anything really that has any long term results.
Most diets start differently for a few months, but then all appear to level out between 6 months and a year, but results for that long are very small.

And I've not seen any results that define a high, or even healthy fat diet really.
It seems to be a mythical beast, with nothing to define it.
And no long term studies of any either.

isnt the fact that the human race exists an illustration that a high fat diet works?

although the life expectancy being 35 yrs for so many years prolly makes that a bad example lol

Andy12345 said:

isnt the fact that the human race exists an illustration that a high fat diet works?

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paleo diet?

tubers, insects, fruit, nuts, seeds, vegetables, mushrooms, herbs, and spices?

and the odd sabre tooth tiger when you could spear it?.

I don't see the high fat, no butter, no dairy, no oil, no way to preserve meat, no cooking, so raw meat, and the best cut would be the liver, maybe the kidneys, heart, and the leaner meat that was the best cuts. High protein to build muscle, to aid the hunter, so I don't know the paleo was high fat.

And the most important thing, spending about 1/3 or your daily calorie intake exercising.
Probably out running the tiger, so a major part of the regime.

Just go for the lot, hign fat,high carb, high protein that way your getting all 3 lol. Just do plenty of exercise to burn it all off haha.

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re the original question, it does appear that some people are higher responders to cholesterol /sat fat in the diet.
http://www.heart-advisor.com/issues/11_ ... 619-1.html
Dr Dayspring, a doctor sympathetic to low carbing has noticed that a proportion of people on very low carb diets develop high LDL levels.

Right now we estimate a third of low carb/high fat eaters develop seriously high LDL-P (and high LDL-C - no discordance). If we believe using conventional tools that they are at risk and they elect not to stop full ketosis (with some degree of saturated fat restriction, than (because they are hypersynthesiz rs of cholesterol, a statin would seem to be a logical option, although many in the Paleo community are very anti-drug.

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This quote is in response to a comment on a video of Dr Daysprings in which he describes such a case. You will have to register to view the video.

http://www.lecturepad.org/index.php/lip ... sen-lipids

paleo diet?

tubers, insects, fruit, nuts, seeds, vegetables, mushrooms, herbs, and spices?

and the odd sabre tooth tiger when you could spear it?.

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I agree and Sabre tooths , wooly mammoths etc became extinct after the last ice age . (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction )
Given that most of the proponents of the Paleo diet hail from the US what about :

wild grass, maize, prickly pear, yucca, amaranth, wolfberry fruit, sunflower, small mammals and termite as found in the coprolites of the 'archaic' Indians living in a cave in Arizona
Not a lot of fat, very low GI , very high fibre and containing plants that are said to lower glucose levels. These weren't farmers but an seems like an awful lot more gathering than hunting.

Understanding the Pathoecological Relationship between Ancient Diet and Modern Diabetes through Coprolite Analysis
http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/natrespapers/321/

I prefer low GI myself, and fibre rich, which seems to have reduced my bs, and decreased my acid reflux and indigestion to zero.
I'm still on statins, but when I trialled missing off over summer I still had good figures.