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Tonmick

Newbie
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Location
Suffolk uk
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
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call centres. Bigots, liars, people who don't care, people who dump rubbish on our streets and country side
I am type 2 and I have a appointment with my diabetic consultant this Friday and he will no doubt advise me to go on insulin injections. I have been trying to lose weight and I have cut out a lot of fat, sugar, salt and I love my fruit and veg, I would like to find a good daily diet I can follow that will reduce my sugar levels and lose weight any help from those who know will be appreciated.
 
Hi & welcome to the forum @Tonmick you have certainly come to the right place for help & support.

I will tag @daisy1 first so that she can come along with a long list of very useful information including diat we give to all new members.

Why do you think you will be moved to insulin?

Neil
 
Hi tonmick, its not inevitable you will be on insulin, diet and exercise is usually the first port of call for a type 2. You need to read the forum and get some ideas as to what works. You need to get a meter - and ignore what the GP or nurse says about not needing to test.
Their are some good websites for you to look at too. Diet doctor, Jason Fung etc.
 
@Tonmick

Hello Tonmick and welcome to the forum

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful, especially with the details on diet and carbs as mentioned above. Some of this you will already know as you are not newly diagnosed. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will come along and help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi @Tonmick , welcome.

You need to cut out carbs not fat. Have a read of the links in my sig below about LCHF for BG management and weight loss.

How long have you been T2 and what is your HbA1c history?
 

Losing weight is difficult for many people because most of us do not really understand the science behind it.

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.no/ Here is the blog of a obesity researcher called Stephan Guyenet, he has a degree in biochemistry and a Phd in neurobiology, and he studies how obesity affect bodyweight regulation in the brain. In short, his theory goes something like this, leptin, a hormon secreted into your blood in proportion to fat mass, tells you when you have to much excess weight on your body, When a person is overweight however, this signaling does not work, the body has lot of leptin, but the body does not recieve this signal, the brain has become less sensitive to leptin! The way you can fix this is through diet quality.

If you do not want to read everything on his blog( There is not only things about obesity, but also heart disease) I recommend reading this.

https://www.dansplan.com/assets/Ideal_Weight_Program_Scientific_Rational.pdf

This is a summary of everything he knows about obesity, and how to achieve weightloss backed by science. It is very dense, but very nicely referenced.
 
Welcome to the forum I am sure you will find all the correct information you need on here
 
Thank for that information. The diabetic consultant who I met 3 months ago said basically my pancreas is failing and sooner than later I will need to go on insulin, I haven't lost any weight all though I have cut out a lot of stuff, but reading some of the information looks like I need to change my diet to the right way with less carbs. I am not the best knowledge base for food and nutrition and I do nearly all the cooking in the house due my wife working and I am retired due to heart attack and stroke so exercise I cant really do, walking is very painful over a short distance, I have a mobile scooter I use to get about. If anyone as menu for weekly/daily diet for the likes of me would be useful for me to learn and follow, I know we are all different but something to start my journey!
 
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