Hi all
Newly diagnosed, coming to terms with it all. Been glucose intolerant since 96. Now tipped the scales. Was on metformin stomach didn't like it at all. Now on gliclazde had a couple of hypo's. Testing levels regularly. Cut way back on carbs as well.
Hi DebHI Clint, I am newly diagnosed and was put on Gliclazide for two weeks then to start metformin and when stable on that, to stop the Gliclazide. I also had a hypo so my Doc stopped it. I am still increasing the Metformin and it isnt the kindest drug in the world!
Hope you get some answers from them
Deb
Hi all thanks for all ur replies. Been for a check up at docs..he is well pleased avg 6.5.. Have to stay on meds for now one 80mg glic with breakfast and one with dinner. As i was dropping below 4 in the mornings. Got repeat prescription for my test strips n lancets.
Thanks to the site and the info I have gained especially about low carbs.....all these years I have been suffering now things are getting back on track. No stomach pains headaches feeling tired etc...life is great.
Hi there thanks for the reply, I know exactly where you are coming from, I now only take one 80mg glic in the morning and another one (80mg) with my evening meal. I have only just started that today so I will see how it all goes. my early mornig BG was 5.4, will test again two hours after breakfast, and so on through the day. I totally agree with you about meds and I would rather let me diet control the BG. I think the trick is getting the correct balance between meds and diet, So your living a healthy life style, As for my weight etc I am 5.8 and 80kg. so may be a little over weight but nothing too much. I get plenty of exercise as I am in the RAF, i walk to work and back (1 n half miles each way),and have use of a fee gym etc. I am in my fifities and have served in the RAF since I was 17, only three years left to the end of my service career.Hello Clinton.
It looks like you're doing really well, and I'm delighted to see your positive, up-beat attitude to it all.
My only comment so far would be to ask if your Doc has considered you having a lower dose of Gliclazide in the mornings, to ease the potential for hypos? I always feel a bit saddened when I read of people eating up to their meds, rather than having their meds trimmed to fit with their lifestyle and eating patterns. That just doesn't make sense to me.
My rationale is that your objective is to bring your blood scores under control in a safe and healthy manner? You are taking some medication to help with that, and the effect of Gliclazide is to drive down the blood sugar levels.
That's all good so far, until you find you are breaching the safe lower levels for those taking Gliclazide or similar drugs. Clearly there are two ways to tackle that. The first is eat more, so that you are driving your bloods up, whilst taking a drug to drive them down (see where I'm coming from?), or it could be considered to trim back your dosage (in the morning in your case), so that your amended diet, which seems to give you excellent average numbers can be maintained, without the snacks. Personally, I can't see the benefits of the first approach.
I don't know if you are carrying any weight. Many of us do at diagnosis. If you do carry weight, eating up to your meds could have the potential to impact on weight loss, plus one of the unfortunate reported side-effects of Gliclazide is weight gain, which is underirable for the vast majority of the population, and for most diabetics in particular.
Please don't think I'm bashing your Doc or your medication, it's just that I have a bee in my bonnet about matching meds with life, rather life to meds.
Thus far, I have been very fortunate not to need to take meds of any kind, so have no personal experience of either drugs you have taken, but I have done plenty of reading and thinking.
There are many, many knowledgeable members on this site who will try to help you with any issues you encounter. We've all been at the beginning of the journey, and most if us have hit the odd bump in the road along the way. Sometimes it's the mistakes we make that teach us the most valuable lessons.
Good luck with it all.
Hi there thanks for the reply, I know exactly where you are coming from, I now only take one 80mg glic in the morning and another one (80mg) with my evening meal. I have only just started that today so I will see how it all goes. my early mornig BG was 5.4, will test again two hours after breakfast, and so on through the day. I totally agree with you about meds and I would rather let me diet control the BG. I think the trick is getting the correct balance between meds and diet, So your living a healthy life style, As for my weight etc I am 5.8 and 80kg. so may be a little over weight but nothing too much. I get plenty of exercise as I am in the RAF, i walk to work and back (1 n half miles each way),and have use of a fee gym etc. I am in my fifities and have served in the RAF since I was 17, only three years left to the end of my service career.
That's all good to hear.
There's no doubt I have been fortunate to be able to fend off the meds, but you're right, it does take a while to get the balance right so that your quality of life/lifestyle and occupational needs are in some form of balance.
The NHS BMI Calculator ( http://www.nhs.uk/Tools/Pages/Healthyweightcalculator.aspx ) suggests your BMI is 26.8. The published Healthy Weight range is 17.5 - 25, which translates to 75kg at the upper end and 55kg at the lower end.
There's no doubt that BMI is a bit of a blanket approach and we all differ in terms of how much muscle we might carry versus fat, but it seems likely that dropping a few pounds might help with all things. Personally, I found that as I adapted my diet to manage my sugars, I lost weight without trying (I didn't have masses to go either), and as that happened my blood scores notched down, in line with my weight. In fact, I've ended up very slim indeed, with a bit of a struggle to keep weight on for a while. Trust me, that last bit was a bit of a shock! Who would have thought it?
I would suggest your primary objective has to be getting your bloods into order, and where possible, in consultation with your Doc, trimming your meds to match the new you.
What sort of stuff are you eating these days? I see you're cutting back carbs, which is just great.
Hi,
I know that i am slightly over my BMI, not to worried about that just now as am sure it will fall slowly. As for eating breakfast is manily eggs (poached or scrambled) bacon and mushrooms, snack morning small apple (also have plain nuts and mixed seeds to nibble on if i feel the need) Lunch is salad (cheese or tuna) snacks in afternoon the same as above. Evening meal meat/fish with veggies.(Desserts i have problems with not sure what to eat) Drinking water between 2-3 ltrs a day, with the odd cup of tea (full fat milk when i can). Trying to increaase the fat intake a bit when i can. I fell 100% better in myself, more get up and go, better concentration etc. Do you have any suggestions for me?
I am in my fifities and have served in the RAF since I was 17, only three years left to the end of my service career.
HI,You seem to have a decent handle on it, to be honest.
Many folks find fruit to be a challenge, so it's probably important to do some testing around your apples. I know I almost went into mourning over fruit! Now though, I can tolerate it better, having got my sugars and weight right down, so I can have a bit more these days.
I'm really not the best person to ask about desserts as I've never been a sweet eater, aside from my beloved fruit. I've always been fine with berries, so raspberries, a few strawberries and/or blueberries with double cream can be very pleasant. Because I'm not a massive consumer, I tend to buy frozen, so I can take to leave them as the whim takes me. That said, if you search on the forum you'll find loads of recipes and ideas you might find useful, or alternatively start a thread? Asking questions is how we learn, and we've all done it to one extent or another.
Finally, have you done any reading on "Insulin Resistance"? For me, learning about that was a bit of a light bulb moment, and I believe my diabetic diagnosis was due to insulin resistance, rather than a failing pancreas. The way my bloods scaled back in line with my weight reinforced that belief. Most T2s, at diagnosis suffer insulin resistance, meaning we produce plenty of insulin, our bodies just can't use it very efficiently. This doesn't apply to absolutely everyone. For those with failing pancreatic function, that will come into play too, but we don't usually know that at the outset. Again there are a number of threads on the forum discussing this.
The following websites contain loads of information on low carbing, which you may find useful as you expand your knowledge:
Blood Sugar 101: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/
Diet Doctor: http://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb
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