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jim31

Newbie
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2
Location
Falkirk
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi Guys Jim31 here, been diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes and I am on Metformin twice a day, bought myself a meter etc to keep an eye on my sugar levels was informed by my diabetic nurse that I didn't need to do this while on metformin, as I wouldnt hypo or hyper on this medication, can anyone out there verify this as I have heard conflicting reports on this matter
 
@jim31 - Hello Jim and Welcome to the Forum. @daisy1 will be along soon to provide you with some basic information that all new members receive. Have a read around on the threads, and ask as many questions as you need. That is brilliant that you have a meter and are testing.
 
Hello Jim and welcome!
The Joslin Diabetic Centre (the worlds largest treatment and research facility for diabetics) states that metformin is not likely to cause a hypo.
As you are sensible enough to have a meter and to use it, you should be able to spot any hypers. I presume they have started you on 500mg (morning and night). I think you should be pretty safe on this dosage except for some possible side effects.
Metformin can take several weeks before everything stabilizes and during this period it would be prudent to avoid alcohol, especially on an empty stomach.
This site has excellent info on metformin - good information is available from the Joslin Diabetic Centre and the Mayo Clinic as well. So keep monitoring, blogging - but no carb loading.
All the best. It seems you are off to a good start. You will find this a friendly and caring site.
 
Hi and welcome,

The reason we type 2s not on insulin and certain other insulin-promoting drugs test ourselves is less about hypos as these are unlikely to happen, but more about helping us control our blood sugar levels by testing out our food consumption. Testing before and a couple of hours after eating tells us what that meal has done to our levels, helps us to either eliminate certain foods completely, or reduce the portion size until we are happy the rise in levels from before to after is acceptable.

Yes, we are unlikely to hypo on Metformin, but we can (and do) hyper if we eat the wrong foods. Our meters will teach us which foods our own bodies can cope with. The main culprits are carbs, particularly rice, pasta, bread, potatoes, cereals and flour. Do use your meter to help you, keep a food diary and record your levels alongside. Patterns will emerge, and you will learn from this.
 
Welcome to the forum @jim31 all great advice given so far - that's why I love this forum. I test myself regularly to understand how different foods affect me. If you test 2 hours after eating you will get to know how foods are affecting your BG.

Hope you are getting on ok with Metformin. If it doesn't agree with you there is a SR option, many people have switched to it. Metf made my stomach upset at times, but thankfully come off it now.

Ask any questions you need to here, someone here has been there and will know the answer
 
@jim31

Hello Jim and welcome to the forum To help you to get started on your diabetes care, here is the information we give to new members and I hope it will be useful to you. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
The reason I stopped taking Metformin was because they were causing hypos so it is possible. Having a meter is an essential tool in diabetes management so it is great that you have already purchased one.
 
I was first diagnosed in 2013, a month later I received a phone call from my GP and told i wasn't a diabetic and that i should stop taking metformin over 2 years later i went for a routine gp appointment who took blood samples, 2 days later returned to doctor who informed me that I was type 2 diabetic and that my hba1c had gone higher that was about a year ago to the day, i bought my own meter ( dario )and received my strips and lancettes on prescription but back in october i was told i didn't have to check my bg and dario was taken of my prescriptions list. i threw away my meter in frustration, but I am awaiting the delivery of another meter and will meet the costs of lancettes and strips myself. keep you posted how i get on
 
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