Yes it is.Is THIS the Newcastle Diet I have seen people speak of on here?
What is Optifast and where can I buy it?
TIA x
Thankyou for your reply Pipp, what other products are suitable?Yes it is.
Optifast is not commercially available. You can use other products.
Is Optifast just like the diet type shakes available. The effects as in health effects?Tesco shakes are very similar.
But you really need to take advice before doing it, or have a good understanding of the effects a low calorie diet can have if you maintain it for the period.
add some salt because you will flush fluids the first weekIs Optifast just like the diet type shakes available. The effects as in health effects?
- headache
- dizziness
- tiredness
- hunger
- cold
Or more serious effects?
Is Optifast just like the diet type shakes available. The effects as in health effects?
- headache
- dizziness
- tiredness
- hunger
- cold
Or more serious effects?
@douglas99 can you clarify? How long were you on ND? Not all weight loss was on ND was it?I was tired, but planned around it.
I've lost over 4 stone overall, and I have to be honest, I feel the cold more than I used too
Not entirely on the Newcastle diet to be fair.
Personally, I wouldn't entertain jack's suggestion of trying to substantially alter the diet to a high fat, as it never was that sort of diet, and the results would be completely unknown.
As far as I'm aware, he hasn't done a low calorie diet himself.
I've done the original, with good result, so would always go with that.
Have a read of my story
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/another-newcastle-diet.66762/
edit - I didn't particularly add salt either.
Maybe the odd shake occasionally, but nothing memorable.
Sorry @jack412.since when is 50g of fat high fat? it is less than the daily minimum
it's just called LCHF, and as I said, if I did the drinks and salad, I would add a tin of sardines, prof taylor also said you can do the diet with 12 or 1500 calories..so it isn't written in stone
Thanks, so are you saying you felt tired on Newcastle diet? Or is there another reason you need to build your energy back up?I did it for about 5 weeks.
My first weight loss was on low fat, probably over about a year,
This was about 4 stones off.
Good results, insulin resistance greatly improved, cut meds
Then I stabilised, but thought I still had a bit further to go.
I did the Newcastle diet for about 5 or 6 weeks, and lost another stone.
(But that was after summer, so I'd put on a few pounds)
So actually nearer 5 stones thinking about it.
But the newcastle diet seemed to shift different fat to the slow loss, or maybe it was the final push.
I stopped the Newcastle diet due to other reasons though, I needed to start eating again, and build my energy back up.
edit - it also meant I cut my meds again, and also improved my cholesterol figures.
I should have tagged doug,Sorry @jack412.
I am getting confused now. I hope you do not think I was criticising anything you said?
I was just trying to relay my own experience.
I should have tagged doug,as you know I'm supporter of the newcastle diet and I link to it and his lectures in my list
I'd just tweak the proteins and fats a bit. that's all
this is what I normally post about the ND
Newcastle diet aims in 8+ weeks to mimic the rate of ~70% remission, for surgery T2
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/
Newcastle diet Lectures
http://www.fend-lectures.org/index.php?menu=view&id=94
http://www.ncl.ac.uk/events/public-lectures/item.php?roy-taylor-diabetes
shows BG lowering to normal range
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Fair enough.
But you haven't done it, so I reckon it's not going to work well, and I have done it, so I'm happy to speak from experience.
But, that's just us I guess, and the op has all the facts here.
It''s a specific diet, with the research for that specific diet.
No offence to anyone,obviously, but it is a very detailed, very specific, calorie restricted, low fat, meal replacement diet, with the specification as outlined in the op's original link.
So worth pointing out, anything else isn't the Newcastle diet, regardless of what we would like to wish for here.
It's a shame the op is being sidetracked.
I have seen resistance to the Newcastle diet, which is a great shame, but at the end of the day, Prof Taylor defined it, and I guess until he changes it, that's what it is going to be.
thanks pipp for a well balanced post straight down the middleYes, @douglas99
To some extent I would agree. I believed that too, as I read the original research paper from 2008, and took it literally to mean I needed to replicate that method as closely as possible with meal replacement drinks. The only products I could find then that were similar and that my GP approved were the Total Food Replacement products. It took me 2 years to persuade GP to agree to it. 9 weeks with no food but the diet products was not something I looked forward to, but I am glad I did it.
Subsequent reports from prof Taylor (after the 2008 paper I read) have in fact said that the calorie restriction does not need to be so severe. Just as @jack412 linked in his post.
In short, Prof Taylor defined it, then refined it.
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