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Newly diagnosed - snack ideas?

cobrakatie

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Type of diabetes
Gestational
Treatment type
Insulin
I am 35 and have recently been told I have LADA after a the GAD antibody blood test. This came after a year of playing a diabetes guessing game - gestational (with insulin needed), all-clear after baby was born, Type 2 diagnosis and now LADA.

I was relieved at first and felt quite positive but am now feeling a bit stressed as trying to get the insulin balance right and have had my first few hypos. These make me nervous as I have a 1 year old and I worry about getting busy and getting caught out. Getting the insulin right seems to be a constant challenge at the moment and my BS seems to be a bit all over the place. I also feel shattered.

I don't know anyone with type 1 and I find a lot of people don't understand or don't know what to say.

I'd be interested to know if anyone can recommend some good ideas for snacks that help keep BS stable? I mainly eat nuts and cheese but my cholesterol, whilst ok for a non diabetic, is slightly high for a diabetic. My weight is normal for my height.
 
Hi there I am 36 this year, had gestational diabetes during my pregnancy with my 2nd child and was diagnosed with diabetes after her delivery. Tomorrow I am seeing my new doctor for the 2nd time after 1.5 months of blood sugar monitoring and he will test me for LADA due to presence of ketones in my urine.

So my history looks quite similar to yours so far. Just that I have not been put on any med or insulin yet. Much will depend on what my doc thinks for my blood sugars the past month or so, and the result of the tests for LADA.

I have also been asking lots of questions here and the people on this forum have been really helpful with sharing of resources. I'm glad I have support and understanding online and I believe you will find the same too!

You take care!
 
I'd try out butter coffee. It's delicious, but also it sustains you for hours and hours and hours. Good coffee, plus 15g unsalted butter and coconut oil to taste, from 10 to 20g, blend with stick blender.

Small quantities of nuts. Weigh them out first? Especially don't OD on Brazil nuts - tho delicious, they have so much selenium they can get toxic.

Lettuce leaves rolled up with ham, or cheese slices. Mini salamis if you can find organic ones ( no nitrates).

Macadamias are the best nuts because low levels of PUFAs (sorry, in a hurry, Google). But they're expensive.
 
A lot of us LADAs here find a low carb high fat diet helps keep our BG levels stable. Many of us find that when on a LCHF diet we don't snack, we don't get hungry between meals, this because fat sustains you more than carbs. Our bodies basically run off fat instead of glucose, I forget the exact figures but our bodies can store something 10 to 20 times as much energy in fat as we can in glucose (carbs), thus if we are dependant on fat for our energy (which we are) our energy reserves, and thus our need for food goes further.

No snacking between meals helps keep my BG levels down.... But I think it's likely you can only do this on a LCHF diet...... Just a thought.
 
Thanks so much! Butter coffee sounds great Lucy, am a big coffee fan so that's good!

Ian - I am def steering more to a LCHF diet so good to hear it works for many of you on here.

Jache - your situation sounds so similar. I hope you get the answers you need and do keep us posted and let us know how you get on. It's a lot to take in but I do feel pleased they have figured out it's LADA. Type 2 didn't really make sense for me - no family history/ not overweight and I was so good with my diet and still my levels would sometimes go through the roof. Best of luck for your appointment.
 
Hey cobrakatie and welcome!

LADA is a lot to get your head around at first - it feels more devastating than a Type 2 diagnosis somehow - at least it did to me. (Sorry, no offence to Type 2s, just how I felt when first realising I was LADA). I was diagnosed Type 2 and later re-diagnosed Type 1/LADA after becoming very ill. At first, I couldn't stop crying - but it really does get better!

Starting to use insulin permananetly is also terrifying - but absolutely the best decision I made. I now feel so much better than previously - I guess I was ill for some time and just didn't realise it.

Like Ian and Lucy, I also believe a LCHF diet is best for helping to manage LADA. It is such an unpredictable type of diabetes - sometimes your pancreas helps, sometimes it doesn't - that using diet to keep your insulin requirements small has to be the way to go. Small insulin doses = small mistakes = mild, easily-correctable hypos. Try not to worry too much about hypos - they do come with the territory a bit I'm afraid, but as long as they are mild, they are easily-manageable.

As for snacking, well that's really difficult on insulin. Most things you snack on (in fact anything you snack on if the portion is high enough) will raise your BG and will require an extra shot of rapid-acting. If you take your rapid-acting too close together, you'll stack it and risk more hypos. However, the best snacks if you must are ham (or any cold meat), cold sausages (as well as they are high meat content - cheaper ones have a cereal filler in them and send BG into orbit!), hard boiled eggs, cheese, small portions of nuts, avocados, olives - basically things without much carb.

Cholestorol - depends on the exact break down of your lipid profile as to how much a higher level matters. I'm not an expert in this, but when I stopped eating much carb and started eating more good fats, my total cholestorol went up, but my good cholestorol (HDL) went up, my bad cholestorol (LDL) went down so the ratio is now much better, and my really bad cholestorol (triglycerides) is very low - that makes my cholestorol levels really good overall. I think getting the glucose in your blood under control is probably the best way to influence the cholestorol for the better.

Smidge
 
Thanks Smidge, v helpful advice.

I was quite shocked when the consultant first said it might be Type 1 or LADA (never even crossed my mind). When they diagnosed LADA, I was fairly upbeat and then about a week later felt quite low. The actual injecting insulin I can handle - I had to do it when pregnant and although I found it traumatic at the time, i got used to it v quickly and it helps that the needles are v small.

I think it's the constant checking and thinking before I eat anything. I feel guilty if my sugars are too high or too low and I get really tired. I particularly feel it in the mornings and this week my sugars have been 8 before breakfast (not on overnight insulin yet).

Anyway, I am rambling but it's great to hear from others who also have LADA. Like you say it's unpredictable as with some insulin still being produced it can be tricky to get the balance right.
 

Exactly the same as my cholesterol.... Overall levels up, with HDL up but LDL down and ratio much better.... They weren't bad before, but Dr says the are even better now, so happy with that.... Especially considering my fat intake is around 80%.
 
Smidge's point about hypo's is absolutely right. They do come along, but they're mild and can be corrected easily with a couple of dextro tabs.

Also the point about snacks is right. It's better to decide not to, actually, apart from butter coffee (which is only 1g carb). I get into real trouble when I stack insulin. 1 unit taken 2 hrs later behaves like 2u and I crash and have to treat low BG.
 
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Cobrakatie,

On feeling guilty when BGs are high - DON'T ! Its a diabetes trap. I wrote about this recently. Try to train yourself not to.

I wrote:


"From September to New Year, I ploughed grimly on with the Bernsteinian 30g carbs a day, trying to cope on basal alone. But though my spikes from eating were almost always under 2mmol, I couldn’t get rid of them. All I could do was bump up the basal overnight and in the morning. But there are limits to what basal can do. My baseline rates and averages were too high because of the post-meal levels. Then my baseline rate started to rise, and I felt it was my fault, and all I could do was just eat less. That I did. It was miserable. I was completely caught up in the You-can-do-it-by-diet-alone narrative. I started thinking I was insulin-resistant, worrying about every eyestrain and every complication symptom (because I have quite a few of those. I suspect I started having really high blood sugars about five years ago – I’ll never know, of course). I worried extra much because it seems some people glycosylate at a lower threshold than others (their HbA1c is higher than their mean BG rate would predict), and I’m one of them. Over Christmas, it was whack up the basal even more (I was now on 7u/day) and just eat less and less. Horrid.

Finally just before NY I called the hospital and was given some NovoRapid, just one unit at a time to start with, carb ratios to be worked out later. And life has been so, so much better. No more spikes. Mean BG rate 5.4 rather than 6.7 plus, fasting 5.0 and 5.2 rather than 8.0. I’ve stopped worrying about my eyes, and the brain fog is going (it was high BG). So I’m exercising better again too. I’m looking, and feeling, and sleeping, better. Everything is better now.

It's obvious now that I should have asked for quick-acting ages ago. But I just didn't get it. I’m thankful that for now I’m on a low TDD: 5u basal and 2 or 3u bolus. It’ll probably go up, but hopefully low-carb will stop it going up to stellar levels. But when I need more insulin, I’ll take it ...

But I draw a big lesson from this (here comes the rant): that the redemption stories we tell ourselves when we are first diagnosed and are still really in denial that we are sick can be quite harmful. It’s not true that low-carbing alone can save LADAs. It may be sufficient for some, but for others it isn’t, and each single person is different and has to have confidence in what they work out suits them.

I think these are stages in the grief process - the psychology of getting used to the idea that we have diabetes. At first, after the shock, we deny that we’re sick, and then we make bargains with diabetes – if I only do this, then it will only go that far, if I’m good it won’t develop.

But that’s what children do. We can’t make bargains. We just have to adapt to what is happening. But our self-esteem and our confidence get caught up in this need to be on top of diabetes, to be stronger than diabetes.

Well, I think new diabetics should be on the lookout for thinking like this, that when you do well you are a Good Diabetic, and when you don’t it is because you are being a Bad Diabetic. It is false and it doesn’t help.

And isolation makes things worse. I don’t know any actual physical people with either type one or type two, except a friend with iatrogenic T1 who has cancer to worry about. So it’s hard to get a sense of perspective."
 
Sugar free jelly with a bit of squirty cream (The extra thick version has more cream and less sugar, some lighter types are pretty sugary, or you could use actual cream).
 
Exactly the same as my cholesterol.... Overall levels up, with HDL up but LDL down and ratio much better.... They weren't bad before, but Dr says the are even better now, so happy with that.... Especially considering my fat intake is around 80%.
Yep ditto , my figures mirror
 
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