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kj1960 · Mar 15, 2017

Daibell said:
Hi and welcome. I'm surprised A&E turned you away - obviously they don't understand the risk of DKA. I agree with Brunneria that it's possible you could be late onset T1. In the meantime keep the carbs right down and drink plenty of water. Suggest the possibility of T1 to the GP who may roll his/her eyes. Ask for the two tests GAD and c-peptide. If the low-carb diet and metformin don't help the blood sugar you may want to suggest adding Gliclazide to your script. This stimulates the pancreas and I had to suggest it to my stupid diabetes GP and was on it for a few years. If you are T1 then eventually insulin would be needed but that's not really a problem.

Hi they put me on zicron. then rang me up told come off it because my levels may crash. due to my build.

kj1960 · Mar 15, 2017

Bs0lth said:
Kj1960

It's really hard to get your head round, your sent on your way with your diagnosis and if your lucky a good testing kit and told to get on with things. Just take a day at a time, you will get there but you need to be n control.

If you don't have a glocose meter everyone says you should buy one, but look at the cost of the strip...

As for food go back to the basics and start from there, you will become obsessed, I'm really hoping that my obsession calms down once I get a better understanding on things. It's just hard making the changes at first.

What I will say is there is for me a good side effect to my change of diet, I lost 3kg my first week eating no carbs or sugar, that's been a great incentive to keeping going... Oh and that I really don't want to have to start injecting insulin if I can prevent it happening with diet I'm going to give it a go

Everyone on here is a real person with diabetes, which means your talking and asking people who deal with it in their day to day life. Everything I've read has kept me positive and my head in a good place which means I'm actually starting to cope a little better. If you do come across a hiccup then ask here, you get some pretty decent answers and I've thought time and time again why didn't I think about that?

Good luck on your journey though, I've realised its different for each of us

hi not sure i need to lose weight ? 5.10 32 waist 38 chest. Don't fell like I am overweight

kj1960 · Mar 15, 2017

Liam1955 said:
Hello @Bs0lth and Welcome to the Forum .

thank you

kj1960 · Mar 15, 2017

Bs0lth said:
Kj1960

It's really hard to get your head round, your sent on your way with your diagnosis and if your lucky a good testing kit and told to get on with things. Just take a day at a time, you will get there but you need to be n control.

If you don't have a glocose meter everyone says you should buy one, but look at the cost of the strip...

As for food go back to the basics and start from there, you will become obsessed, I'm really hoping that my obsession calms down once I get a better understanding on things. It's just hard making the changes at first.

What I will say is there is for me a good side effect to my change of diet, I lost 3kg my first week eating no carbs or sugar, that's been a great incentive to keeping going... Oh and that I really don't want to have to start injecting insulin if I can prevent it happening with diet I'm going to give it a go

Everyone on here is a real person with diabetes, which means your talking and asking people who deal with it in their day to day life. Everything I've read has kept me positive and my head in a good place which means I'm actually starting to cope a little better. If you do come across a hiccup then ask here, you get some pretty decent answers and I've thought time and time again why didn't I think about that?

Good luck on your journey though, I've realised its different for each of us

Thanks, I said it before its great to know such caring people on here.

daisy1 · Mar 15, 2017

@kj1960

Hello and welcome to the Forum As mentioned above, here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

Reduce your carbohydrate intake
Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes

Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l

Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)

Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l

Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)

Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l

However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.

Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.

blanc71 · Mar 15, 2017

DevonVee said:
A good place to start is Tom Kerridges book. He lost 11stone on a low carb diet. His recipes are low carb and gives you some treats.
Dietdoctor website has recipes. Keep looking at forum. Plenty of alternative recipe sites to get you started.

I agree DevonVee

this book got me through a very tough time,brilliant book,life after bland food

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