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Newly Diagnosed

Marchie1507

Newbie
Messages
1
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Hello,

I was diagnosed 2 weeks ago. I have had to have hba1c done annually after suffering from gestational diabetes 3 years ago. All have been normal until this year. It was 49, I then had to have a GTT, fasting was 6.1 but 2 hours was 15 something.

Seen diabetic nurse yesterday and been, no medication and told to lose weight etc, I have PCOS and carry most of the weight round the middle.

I feel fortunate that I have been picked up so early as if I hadn't been getting an hba1c annually who knows how long it would have been before I found out.

Been testing for a couple of weeks and all my pre meals are under 7 it's the after meals that is the problem, they vary from at the highest 10.5 down to 5.2, but discovered that pasta has a negative effect and potatoes.

Has anyone been on the Desmond course and found it useful?
 
A very warm welcome to you @Marchie1507 . I've been on the Desmond course in May but didn't find it very useful because I registered here in February and had already changed my lifestyle (particularly my diet). They were still touting the Eat Well plate which actually tells you to eat "Plenty of potatoes, bread, rice, pasta and other starchy foods". They do advise changing to wholemeal versions but I found out from here and by self-testing that these also made my BG rise. I also had, by then, the lowest HbAc1 of all the participants. I watched the 'tutors' and other participants munch their sandwiches and crisps at lunchtime and biscuits at break times. So I spent the day mentally shaking my head and disagreeing with most of their advice (no need to test etc.). At the moment, all pasta, rice, potatoes, bread and other starchy foods are either eliminated or kept to the very minimum in my diet. As my BG has gone down I've been able to eat the Lidl high-protein rolls but only a half of one at a time and I'm very hopeful that I'll soon be able to introduce small portions of porridge in the very near future.

I'll tag @daisy1 and she'll give you some very useful information. Just keep reading and asking questions and you'll soon be in control.
 
@Marchie1507

Hello and welcome to the forum

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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