Dodo
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The silver Novo Pens I had weren't Echo, they were just one unit pens.
The silver Novo Pens I had weren't Echo, they were just one unit pens.I've got a silver one and a blue one?
It also shows you when you last had your injection and how many units you had. I find this extremely useful as after so many years and injections, I can't always remember whether I've injected or not.whats the difference? - is it just the half unit increments?
The Echo has a little digital display on the end with an indicator of how long since you last injected and how much. Like @Dodo I’ve been known to log a shot in my app and then forget to actually take it! It’s really useful.whats the difference? - is it just the half unit increments?
Unfortunately, the Lantus insulin cartridges won't fit into the Echo pen as that would be so helpful. My diabetic nurse has searched for a similar pen that will but neither she nor I can find such a pen.I use a blue one for basal too, great minds think alike! Red one for Novorapid because it’s (in my opinion) the more dangerous of the two. If I were to take 8.5u (my basal dose) of Novorapid I’d be in serious trouble; as opposed to half a unit of Tresiba not making a whole lot of difference...
@Dodo Sanofi make one called “JuniorStar”. They have them in the shop on this site, so they must be available through your nurse.Unfortunately, the Lantus insulin cartridges won't fit into the Echo pen as that would be so helpful. My diabetic nurse has searched for a similar pen that will but neither she nor I can find such a pen.
I'll make enquiries about this and see if the Lantus cartridge will fit, as it's considerably wide than Novorapid cartridge. Does it have the digital display? Thank you for the link.@Dodo Sanofi make one called “JuniorStar”. They have them in the shop on this site, so they must be available through your nurse.
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/shop/juniorstar-blue-30ml-05-unit-1-30-units
It should do, a quick google search (complete with Sanofi request link) came up with this article about it:I'll make enquiries about this and see if the Lantus cartridge will fit, as it's considerably wide than Novorapid cartridge. Does it have the digital display? Thank you for the link.
The doctor needs to click on “red” or “blue”.... the pharmacist will get the right colour hopefully. If you don’t mind one unit pens, they come in silver too.
I can only get red or blue in the echo 1/2 unit pens and this is a pain for me as I have two background basal types of insulin. I use blue for basals but I have to put sticky plaster with black writing the length of the blue top piece to ensure I use the right pen!!
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It has been Very confusing at 3.30am sometimes when doing first basal when 1/2 asleep!! Even though marked up I have still done bolts instead of insulatard and tresiba instead of insulatard.
Thank you for your information. I've sent an enquiry to Sanofi asking about this pen and hopefully they will get back to me. I find it surprising that both the Junior Star and Echo are advertised for children, as I'm sure it is even more useful for those of us who are long term diabetic. I know that after almost 52 years of injections (roughly about 76,000 injections), it becomes such a habit that you can't always remember having injected.It should do, a quick google search (complete with Sanofi request link) came up with this article about it:
https://www.everydayupsanddowns.co.uk/2014/08/half-unit-lantus-insulin-pen-free-on.html
I hope you get a result! I had no idea they were even a thing until recently - and when a unit drops me by 3mmol, I’d have to wait until I got quite high before daring to correct, so being able to do a half unit is like using a slightly smaller hammer to mend a watch than before. Ideally I’d like quarter units, but that’s not an option on MDI, sadly.Thank you for your information. I've sent an enquiry to Sanofi asking about this pen and hopefully they will get back to me. I find it surprising that both the Junior Star and Echo are advertised for children, as I'm sure it is even more useful for those of us who are long term diabetic. I know that after almost 52 years of injections (roughly about 76,000 injections), it becomes such a habit that you can't always remember having injected.
I agree. Being able to do a half unit correction is so useful. I used to over correct because of only having whole units then find I needed to compensate by having something to eat because I would then go lower than I wanted to be. A tough balancing act!I hope you get a result! I had no idea they were even a thing until recently - and when a unit drops me by 3mmol, I’d have to wait until I got quite high before daring to correct, so being able to do a half unit is like using a slightly smaller hammer to mend a watch than before. Ideally I’d like quarter units, but that’s not an option on MDI, sadly.
I've been in touch with Sanofi and they have told me they don't manufacture any pens with digital displays. I'm sure in time to come they may well do, just have to wait and see. Thank you for your help anyway.@Dodo Sanofi make one called “JuniorStar”. They have them in the shop on this site, so they must be available through your nurse.
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/shop/juniorstar-blue-30ml-05-unit-1-30-units
But do they do the half unit ones? The digital display may just be a Novo Nordisk thing.I've been in touch with Sanofi and they have told me they don't manufacture any pens with digital displays. I'm sure in time to come they may well do, just have to wait and see. Thank you for your help anyway.
Yes they do the half unit but that doesn't help me with my basal. It's the digital display I need so that I don't get confused as to whether I've already injected at night or not.But do they do the half unit ones? The digital display may just be a Novo Nordisk thing.
Ah, I see. Have you seen these gadgets? It’s called a Timesulin, and tells you if you’ve taken your injection or not, so much the same thing as the digital pens do.Yes they do the half unit but that doesn't help me with my basal. It's the digital display I need so that I don't get confused as to whether I've already injected at night or not.
Back in the "olden dayz" of novopens, they were all one colour. (a sort of light beige, like a late 80s computer tower.?)
There used to be a coded sticker on the side of the insulin box. Orange for rapid & green for basal, which could be peeled of & reused to identify the contents of the pen..
I'm considering getting one but have seen some poor reviews.Ah, I see. Have you seen these gadgets? It’s called a Timesulin, and tells you if you’ve taken your injection or not, so much the same thing as the digital pens do.
https://amzn.to/2u6eZhQ
I know a few people on here use one, might be worth starting a thread about them to get a range of opinions xI'm considering getting one but have seen some poor reviews.
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