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Oh for goodness sake!

13lizanne

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I am normally a reader of "I" newspaper, however, today the Daily Express was delivered in error. This undernoted quote is taken from an article titled Diabetes costs soar as illness takes its toll :-
" We know there are issues with alcohol consumption, bad diet and a lack of exercise, and all of these things can culminate in the diagnosis of diabetes" then later on in the same article:-
"But by encouraging personal responsibility in terms of diet and lifestyle, and putting more effort into education these figures would soon come down"

This from Donald Cameron, the Scottish shadow health secretary. Makes me proud to be Scottish!
 
Putting out the proper information in the first place would be a step in the right direction. They should take their Eatwell plate and .....eat it.
 
Indeed! talk about condeming with one breath and condemning [eatwell plate] with the next
 
I have to say, the Scottish shadow health secretary appears to have sums my life up in one sentence.
Although, I don't know why the eatwell plate is being condemned.
I can't actually remember anyone serving me a deep fried battered eatwell plate.
Fish, sausage, pizza, kebab meat, anything was good in batter after a few too many Tennents
 
People still have newspapers delivered? This is the thing that surprises me about this story.
 
Mars Bars in batter?
 
13lizanne said:
Indeed! talk about condeming with one breath and condemning [eatwell plate] with the next
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The Scottish version of the NICE guidelines are only marginally better. The bit about promoting personal responsibility is I believe the main difference, and gets a tick from me, but are they encouraging more self monitoring? I don't think they were any different than the NHS England. And I think Eatwell is also on their menu just as it is on mine. So, fine words, but not yet been put into practice. Typical MP speak, i'm afraid.
 
Oldvatr said:
Mars Bars in batter?
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That's actually one thing I never tried.
I would have done, but it was reportedly 1995 when it was invented in Aberdeen, and I spent my youth a decade before, drinking in Glasgow, then relocated.
But I got though plenty of uncooked Mars Bars, especially the old favourite 'King Size' bar of the 90's.

Then they started frying them in Scotland as well, and serving with a bag of chips. Ah. bring back the good old days eh?
Who needs the eat well plate, when they're on offer.
 
Oh dear @SunnyExpat you're reinforcing folks ideas about the Scots but then Weegies are a law unto themselves. I've never had a deep fried Mars bar, or pizza, or kebab meat -deep fried or otherwise. Some of us do eat healthily
 
13lizanne said:
Oh dear @SunnyExpat you're reinforcing folks ideas about the Scots but then Weegies are a law unto themselves. I've never had a deep fried Mars bar, or pizza, or kebab meat -deep fried or otherwise. Some of us do eat healthily
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Oii! I am a Veegie Weegie. Plenty of salad
 
I think their right to some degree....the doctors should get more/ better education!!!! ( oops, did I say that?)
 
13lizanne said:
Oh dear @SunnyExpat you're reinforcing folks ideas about the Scots but then Weegies are a law unto themselves. I've never had a deep fried Mars bar, or pizza, or kebab meat -deep fried or otherwise. Some of us do eat healthily
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To be fair, I ate just as badly everywhere.
 
Avocado Sevenfold said:
Oii! I am a Veegie Weegie. Plenty of salad
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Several pints of Tennents for breakfast.
Deep fried Mars Bar and Chips for lunch.
Several pints of Tennents for supper
There you go, classic veggie diet.

(Ok, I was actually working, so no breakfast, and I was pre deep fried Mars Bar, but close enough!)
 
I have eaten a deep fried battered Mars bar only once on the principle I will try anything well almost anything at least once this was years ago from a chip shop in Plympton Devon where I used to live. I don't think I will ever try it again.
 
I once had a deep fried pizza in Glasgow as it was the only vegetarian item, other than the chips, on offer and what the people who'd been dispatched to the chippie (for a group of us prior to a long drive home after a funeral) thought I should have. It was, um, interesting but I was hungry!
 
Here are the guidelines pertaining to Scotland.

http://www.sign.ac.uk/guidelines/fulltext/116/

I was incorrect about Eatwell being the diet norm. It recommends a low fat carby diet, but does acknowledge that restricting carbs could go as low as 50g/day for max 6 months which is an improvement on Eatwell. However the full guidelines paint a slightly different picture, and are scathing of both carb restricted and calorie restricted diets. Extra carbs are recommended for those taking exercise. There is a table at the end with specific dietary questions, which also mentions Low GI diets and Atkins/ketogenic as possibilities.

So Scotland diabetic care does not limit diet like NHS England does. Well Done.
 
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@Administrator Whats happened to the Edit button? Wanted to correct a minor typo.
Also note that the Delete and Report buttons are also missing.
 
I have had a deep fried Mars bar. It was lovely. So I never had another in case that became an addiction.
Oddly, even though I spent 5 years living in Glasgow, I had the fried Mars bar in England.
 
I didn't actually know what the recommended diet was here in Scotland. When I had my first appointment with the diabetic nurse specialist I told her about my other chronic medical condition that I have to eat specifically for so she decided there was no point sending me to the dietician for advice. I did know that GI was an option put forward at our mefical practice though through a diabetic friend.
 
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