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On LCHF from yesterday but still high


I agree that stress can is a contributing factor to raised BS levels.
However, i am trying to manage my stress levels by doing some mediation and relaxation techniques.
But by reading some of my posts you might think that this is not working terribly well....
 
khorlo said:
Hi @alisonhe ,
The psychological effect medication has for some people is making them to become lazy.
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I disagree. You have chosen not to use medication at this time but that does not mean it is a bad choice for others. There are many reasons why a person might take medication. It does not mean they are lazy, they are just using a particular tool that is available.
 
Croc said:
What I want to know is why I've not lost an ounce doing LCHF. I've not cut out carbs completely but I've reduced significantly to a level I can easily live with and nothing. Im getting nice BS readings on the whole but no weight loss.
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Hi @Croc
If you want to lose some weight cut out the daily calories intake or the portion size.
For a very low carber you should aim to have the 70% FAT, 25 % protein and 5% carbs every day or al least stay close to these ratios.
Say for example so far you had 2000 cals a day and then you reduce it 1700.
70% FAT of 1700 = 1190 cal from FAT
25% of 1700=425 cals from Protein
5% of 1700= 85 cals from Carbs
 

I did not speak in absolute terms, which means that i did not refer to all diabetics.
I used the word "some" which refers to SOME diabetics.
 
Croc said:
What I want to know is why I've not lost an ounce doing LCHF. I've not cut out carbs completely but I've reduced significantly to a level I can easily live with and nothing. Im getting nice BS readings on the whole but no weight loss.
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Not everyone's body is the same. Some people, for whatever reasons can tolerate more carbs than others. Certain medicines, like antidepressants for example can totally stop weight loss no matter how low in carbs you go.

It happens to me as well, to lose weight I have to eat very very little to no carbs.

If I increase the carbs I can sustain the weight but not lose. My BGs look fine but my weight doesn't move.

If I over do the wrong carbs for me, I totally put the weight back on.

I have never approach low carbing from the point of view that I have to eat a certain amount of fats or proteins at all, but focused on the reduction and management of carbs, because I think all bodies are different and set rules don't apply to all. It is important for me not to feel hungry.

I portioned my protein to a size that keeps me satisfied, and I use fat in the same way I do it when I am eating carbs (to make dressings, to cook in normal amounts (a table spoon or two of butter, olive oil, etc).

If I feel hungry then I eat some protein with some fat (a piece of cheese, a bit of chicken with some mayo, peperami, a slice of chorizo with cream cheese, pork scratching, these are all high fat high protein foods), but that mainly happens at the beginning when I am hungrier... as I lose weight and my insulin sensitivity improves, I tend to eat less and my calories tend to go down (naturally, I don't force them there) because of the reduction in the amount of food I eat because of feeling less hungry. However I lose weight at the beginning when I am eating till been satisfied and is not a low caloric diet.

The reason why I don't suggest people to eat low calorie first, is because some, not all, will experiment like me, hunger pangs, easily avoidable at the beginning by eating some snack with protein and fat.
 
The thing is I don't put it on either. My weight with the odd fluctuations has been more or less the same for about 25 years.

It's only about a stone I'd like to drop!
 
Anyone knows where i could get a codefree device apart from online ?
 
khorlo said:
Anyone knows where i could get a codefree device apart from online ?
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Just online I think
You can ask your pharmacy if they can order it for you. Buuuut you won't get the discount if you bulk buy strips. You have the codes?

I bought strips on Tues from the website and recieved the package on Thursday. I paid for 1st class, an extra 50p otherwise it is free 2nd class post. you can pay using PayPal if you wanted the added online security.
HTH
 

It is not a problem for me to buy online it is a problem for the delivery company to find my house.
If there will be an option when ordering to use royal mail then that would be perfect because they are the only ones who know where my house is .
What do you mean by codes ?
 
Don't be disheartened! I am on day 12 of the LCHF diet and after a slowish start my BG levels have halved. Good luck
 
I noticed that you paid £8 for a prescription. I thought as a diabetic, all prescriptions are free, or has this been changed?

When I was told I had to medicate every day for my Thyroid, my Doctor sorted out a Medical Exemption Certificate and she said diabetics are also entitled to free prescriptions. As an OAP, all my prescriptions are free now.
 
My understanding is that in the UK only diabetics on medication qualify for the exemption.
 
Here are some updates.

In august towards the end i started eating very very low carb (under 20g a day sometime only 10 or 12 g) and cut the calories from around 2000 to below 1500-1400 per day sometime less.
Apart from 3 separate occasions i never deviated from this eating plan.
This eating plan combined with a very active job where i am constantly on the move for around 6 hours straight has produced some amazing BS results.
I also lost a stone and a half in the process.

So these days i am constantly between 4.6 and 6.
2.30 hours after meal i get 7 and then within an hour it gets as low as 5.5 or just bellow six.
One myth which was that within 10 days to 2 weeks of starting the diet you should get normal figures was not accurate in my case.
My Bs level needed much longer to stabilise and get within the normal limits.
What is true though is that after a while on this severe diet your body can start to tolerate again very reasonable amount of carbs , carbs that are on the "NO NO" list(potatoes, rice..etc.) without any severe spikes in BS levels.
 
khorlo said:
One myth which was that within 10 days to 2 weeks of starting the diet you should get normal figures was not accurate in my case.
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Err, it's not a myth, it does happen, it just didn't happen for you. As referred to somewhere way back in this thread, my husband got from fasting reading of 24 mmol/L to normal in nine days and stayed there. It can happen, but people's metabolisms are different and some will drop quicker than others. Someone has posted on another thread, earlier today, the suggestion that for some people, when sugar levels drop, the "liver dump" phenomena kicks in to retain levels which the body is used to, hence slowing down the drop.
khorlo said:
What is true though is that after a while on this severe diet your body can start to tolerate again very reasonable amount of carbs , carbs that are on the "NO NO" list(potatoes, rice..etc.) without any severe spikes in BS levels.
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I should be very careful with this "truth". Another name for it is "carb creep", a gradual falling off the wagon, with the inevitable results and disappointments.

Having said all that, may I congratulate you on results so far and wish you well.
Sally
 
My experience is very similar to this. I can tolerate occasional carb meals and even deserts now, 18 months down the track of dietary intervention. I am under no illusions about what would happen if I went back to the SAD permanently though
 
macdoug said:
My experience is very similar to this. I can tolerate occasional carb meals and even deserts now, 18 months down the track of dietary intervention. I am under no illusions about what would happen if I went back to the SAD permanently though
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Same with me - I had a particularly high carb day yesterday and my reading this morning was 5.6 which is the highest I've been for a while as my range is usually between 4.8 and 5.2 so I must not get too complacent
 
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