Highly recommend you read Richard Bernstein-Diabetes Solution- he is T1 - a pioneer of personal BG testing and covers this topic in the book reference effective ways for T1 to keep insulin levels low - you are very correct in stating its as important ( if not more ) than controlling BG levels - in fact, the reason to keep BG low, is because it keeps insulin levels low, insulin is the villain in most metabolic challenges.So in your opinion, or Dr Fung, is there any reason an insulin dependent person should not eat 4-5 small meals a day using small doses of insulin? When I first started insulin I was eating 3 larger meals a day and took shed loads more insulin but I was always hungry and yo yoing. Eating smaller vlc meals allows me to take much less insulin daily and I'm not hungry.
Tried fasting twice ( did wonders when I was type 2, 5 hour window) but now it doesn't work. The first time was intentional to see when insulin started coming in and lowering me. It never happened until I ate after 1. Just injected more than a days worth within that time. Second time was last week for fasting blood work. Took insulin, went and had it done, ( less than an hour including travel) and popped way up.
Back to the question. Do you see anything wrong with a T1 eating more often if it allows less total insulin per day??? I seem to need insulin every 2-3 hours even if I do t eat as I have no basal left
thanks. I read it when I was type 2 and skipped the type 1 part as it didn't apply. Then when I became LADA I read the type 1 part. I very much follow the 'laws of small numbers'. I'm never too far off from my goals.Highly recommend you read Richard Bernstein-Diabetes Solution- he is T1 - a pioneer of personal BG testing and covers this topic in the book reference effective ways for T1 to keep insulin levels low - you are very correct in stating its as important ( if not more ) than controlling BG levels - in fact, the reason to keep BG low, is because it keeps insulin levels low, insulin is the villain in most metabolic challenges.
I also find eating 1-2 meals a day helps keep my insulin intake low (I am a Type 1). Dr. Fung provides excellent info. on his site. Another interesting researcher in fasting is, Valter Longo.From Dr Fung really. When we eat we create an insulin response.. by eating within a limited window we don't create the response so often. For a poor exhausted Type 2 body with insulin resistance the less insulin response you can trigger the better. So only eating once or twice a day and eating very low carb means that your insulin response is less. Less fat is stored and your body uses its reserves to function. That's why the eat three carb based meals per day with snacks in between is such appalling advice for Type 2's. Eating one or two meals a day within a limited 6-8 hour window lets your body use some of its fat to run itself hence also assisting weight loss. That's why I credit intermittent fasting alongside ULCHF as the reason I have my Type 2 under control.
Don't you rise in the morning without eating worse than if you do eat?I also find eating 1-2 meals a day helps keep my insulin intake low (I am a Type 1). Dr. Fung provides excellent info. on his site. Another interesting researcher in fasting is, Valter Longo.
Highly recommend you read Richard Bernstein-Diabetes Solution- he is T1 - a pioneer of personal BG testing and covers this topic in the book reference effective ways for T1 to keep insulin levels low - you are very correct in stating its as important ( if not more ) than controlling BG levels - in fact, the reason to keep BG low, is because it keeps insulin levels low, insulin is the villain in most metabolic challenges.[/QUOTE
Dr. Bernstein's book changed my life. Simply stated and easy to follow.I
thanks. I read it when I was type 2 and skipped the type 1 part as it didn't apply. Then when I became LADA I read the type 1 part. I very much follow the 'laws of small numbers'. I'm never too far off from my goals.
I prefer his book well over think like a pancreas. Dr Ron Rosedale ( the Rosedale diet book) is similar in keeping insulin and lepton levels low. This is where I first heard of MODERATING protein which was a key to keeping my insulin/ bs low.
I have been working on catching DP, and have had success with it taking 5 units of Levemir, and blousing 1 unit of Novolog (usually around 4:30 am). However, this is just the time I get up. I never eat in mornings (my whole life) just coffee and cream. Also, I run in the morning and eating something before work-out makes me sick to my stomach. When I am done working-out, I am usually at a 78.Don't you rise in the morning without eating worse than if you do eat?
I have been working on catching DP, and have had success with it taking 5 units of Levemir, and blousing 1 unit of Novolog (usually around 4:30 am). However, this is just the time I get up. I never eat in mornings (my whole life) just coffee and cream. Also, I run in the morning and eating something before work-out makes me sick to my stomach. When I am done working-out, I am usually at a 78.
Hi. Interesting thread here. I find if I don't eat something first thing in the morning my blood sugar levels keep rising.
I did try waking up at 5:30 and taking a bolus and it did stop the DP but then I had a hard time gettting back to sleep. Now IF I wake up around then I'll test and decide but I'm not setting another alarm!!! Lol. At least I know the rise is only a few hours and I bring it down when I eat.I have been working on catching DP, and have had success with it taking 5 units of Levemir, and blousing 1 unit of Novolog (usually around 4:30 am). However, this is just the time I get up. I never eat in mornings (my whole life) just coffee and cream. Also, I run in the morning and eating something before work-out makes me sick to my stomach. When I am done working-out, I am usually at a 78.
I wouldn't worry about how many grams of carbs you eat. Just avoid starchy food (e.g. sugar, bread, pasta, rice, underground veg).
Here's a good into to low carbing: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb
Thanks so much ..I had read it prob a year ago so I will try and follow it thanks all the best JoI wouldn't worry about how many grams of carbs you eat. Just avoid starchy food (e.g. sugar, bread, pasta, rice, underground veg).
Here's a good into to low carbing: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb
Hi have read all your posts thanks so much for replying to me really appreciate it JoI did try waking up at 5:30 and taking a bolus and it did stop the DP but then I had a hard time gettting back to sleep. Now IF I wake up around then I'll test and decide but I'm not setting another alarm!!! Lol. At least I know the rise is only a few hours and I bring it down when I eat.
If I don't eat and still take insulin it does absolutely nothing. I have to eat. I could easily skip lunch but I don't because I like it and I don't want to lose weight. I don't eat a lot to begin with.
You're up much too early girl!!!
Hi thanks for this..I have tried it out last three days and seems to help having coffee and cream for breakfast..not a hardship as love coffee thanks JoMine used to, but cream in a coffee within 10 minutes of getting up stopped it.
Hi kimlala. Thanks for all your posts ..I used to run in my 20's still miss it.. I have been putting of exercise for so long..thanks for the inspiration JoI have been working on catching DP, and have had success with it taking 5 units of Levemir, and blousing 1 unit of Novolog (usually around 4:30 am). However, this is just the time I get up. I never eat in mornings (my whole life) just coffee and cream. Also, I run in the morning and eating something before work-out makes me sick to my stomach. When I am done working-out, I am usually at a 78.
I found this all very helpful and interesting! My problem with diet is that I'm vegetarian and I've never liked fat! I was buying low fat cheese - should I be buying full fat? Also, porridge. That's how I start my day and is what the DN said was okay. What about milk? I buy semi-skimmed milk and use 50/50 milk and water for the porridge. Still trying to get my carbs down but have some processed food in the freezer from before I was diagnosed and I'm loathe to just bin it!! I love eggs so am eating eggs happily (scrambled eggs with cherry tomatoes is good). The DN said to eat fruits that grow in this country like apples, pears, berries. Does that mean I shouldn't eat pears and apples grown overseas? Sorry for the list of questions! I hope someone can help!
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