Diabetics are not the only ones who eat low carb diets. I think carb content would be more useful than calorie content.No sorry I will not sign it either diabetics are just a small minority of those who eat out so why should we expect any special treatment other illnesses do not get it
Surely you know what you can eat or not so when you are out it should not be a problem. I can't see all restaurants going to the trouble of listing the carbs in everything they cook and as said that is not as simple as it sounds and I don't think we should expect it
I agree with a lot of your points @Scott-C; the more I read your post, the more I feel that you're exactly right.Sorry, I disagree and won't be signing this.
How exactly would this work in the real world? Small businesses are already buckling under a weight of petty regulations and bye-laws.
What's your plan for how they arrive at the carb count? Do they just whip out Carbs & Cals, which is useful, but, as we all know, has limitations and sometimes needs to be taken with a pinch of salt?
Or do they need to send sample meals to a lab to be tested, at who knows what cost?
And then how do you know the meal served to you is the same as the test one sent to the lab?
Will local authorities be given the power to employ testers to do spot checks? Will this increase council tax?
Will there be civil liability if your sugars end up higher than expected even though a million and one other things can increase it besides an inaccurate menu carb listing?
Will you trust the carb count, or will you do what we all do anyway, which is make our own judgment calls over any meal? As that's normally the case, what's the point in forcing small businesses to comply with another rule?
By the way, it's important not to overstate your case. Your petition says that an extremely low blood sugar could lead to a sufferer going into a coma or dying. Sure, that could happen in extremis, but, erm, if I miscalc on a sit out meal, a few glucotabs sorts it. Dying? I've never really let it get that far. Even if your petition otherwise has merit, it loses credibility to suggest that we're facing death or coma because heartless small businesses inbetween negotiating supplies, overdrafts, staff rotas etc. etc. can't do a carb count as well.
I agree I'm prepared to make my own judgement on a meal in a cafe and I believe you can get carb content for say a big mac on line (just example btw) I read about the self measures of a fist of rice or pasta and counting chips works for me. Although I look a bit Wierd doing itSorry, I disagree and won't be signing this.
How exactly would this work in the real world? Small businesses are already buckling under a weight of petty regulations and bye-laws.
What's your plan for how they arrive at the carb count? Do they just whip out Carbs & Cals, which is useful, but, as we all know, has limitations and sometimes needs to be taken with a pinch of salt?
Or do they need to send sample meals to a lab to be tested, at who knows what cost?
And then how do you know the meal served to you is the same as the test one sent to the lab?
Will local authorities be given the power to employ testers to do spot checks? Will this increase council tax?
Will there be civil liability if your sugars end up higher than expected even though a million and one other things can increase it besides an inaccurate menu carb listing?
Will you trust the carb count, or will you do what we all do anyway, which is make our own judgment calls over any meal? As that's normally the case, what's the point in forcing small businesses to comply with another rule?
By the way, it's important not to overstate your case. Your petition says that an extremely low blood sugar could lead to a sufferer going into a coma or dying. Sure, that could happen in extremis, but, erm, if I miscalc on a sit out meal, a few glucotabs sorts it. Dying? I've never really let it get that far. Even if your petition otherwise has merit, it loses credibility to suggest that we're facing death or coma because heartless small businesses inbetween negotiating supplies, overdrafts, staff rotas etc. etc. can't do a carb count as well.
I think going out for meal for most people diabetics or other carb counters means having something different to what they normally eat it's a treat surely they are not going to worry about having a few more extra carbs than they would have at home that would just ruin itDiabetics are not the only ones who eat low carb diets. I think carb content would be more useful than calorie content.
Violently punching the bowls of pasta at the Pizza Hut salad counter. That I have to seeI read about the self measures of a fist of rice or pasta and counting chips works for me. Although I look a bit Wierd doing it
Sometimes you have to eat out as a necessity - for instance when working away from home. Not everyone views food as a treat either.I think going out for meal for most people diabetics or other carb counters means having something different to what they normally eat it's a treat surely they are not going to worry about having a few more extra carbs than they would have at home that would just ruin it
Also this is a T1 thread and it can be a problem to T1s if they don't know the carb count. For example sausages and gravy vary widely in carb content. If someone has too much bolus and ends up with a hypo I don't think that's much of a treat.No sorry I will not sign it either diabetics are just a small minority of those who eat out so why should we expect any special treatment other illnesses do not get it
Surely you know what you can eat or not so when you are out it should not be a problem. I can't see all restaurants going to the trouble of listing the carbs in everything they cook and as said that is not as simple as it sounds and I don't think we should expect it
Sorry, I disagree and won't be signing this.
How exactly would this work in the real world? Small businesses are already buckling under a weight of petty regulations and bye-laws.
What's your plan for how they arrive at the carb count? Do they just whip out Carbs & Cals, which is useful, but, as we all know, has limitations and sometimes needs to be taken with a pinch of salt?
Or do they need to send sample meals to a lab to be tested, at who knows what cost?
And then how do you know the meal served to you is the same as the test one sent to the lab?
Will local authorities be given the power to employ testers to do spot checks? Will this increase council tax?
Will there be civil liability if your sugars end up higher than expected even though a million and one other things can increase it besides an inaccurate menu carb listing?
Will you trust the carb count, or will you do what we all do anyway, which is make our own judgment calls over any meal? As that's normally the case, what's the point in forcing small businesses to comply with another rule?
By the way, it's important not to overstate your case. Your petition says that an extremely low blood sugar could lead to a sufferer going into a coma or dying. Sure, that could happen in extremis, but, erm, if I miscalc on a sit out meal, a few glucotabs sorts it. Dying? I've never really let it get that far. Even if your petition otherwise has merit, it loses credibility to suggest that we're facing death or coma because heartless small businesses inbetween negotiating supplies, overdrafts, staff rotas etc. etc. can't do a carb count as well.
Violently punching the bowls of pasta at the Pizza Hut salad counter. That I have to see
Yes I agree people eat out for all sorts of reasons but when it is a treat I want to enjoy something I would not usually have at home I certainly don't want to worry about eating a few extra carbs.Sometimes you have to eat out as a necessity - for instance when working away from home. Not everyone views food as a treat either.
Haha - it's sort of holding up a fist over the pasta and closing one eye. Really like you are drunk can't see straight and are saying put em up to the pasta. I promise I am more discrete than that but yes it sounds a funny old sightViolently punching the bowls of pasta at the Pizza Hut salad counter. That I have to see
Like I said before... This thread is in the T1 section. For them it isn't a case of eating too many carbs, they need to work out their bolus insulin requirements. If they miscalculate badly they could end up having a life threatening hypo. This thread isn't about T2s wanting little treats (bless them) it's about helping T1s to stay safe.Yes I agree people eat out for all sorts of reasons but when it is a treat I want to enjoy something I would not usually have at home I certainly don't want to worry about eating a few extra carbs.
And what about pregnant women who can't afford to 'not worry about eating a few extra carbs?'Yes I agree people eat out for all sorts of reasons but when it is a treat I want to enjoy something I would not usually have at home I certainly don't want to worry about eating a few extra carbs.
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