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12g includes fibre, you count it as 4.6g
but fruit is a bad example because you also have fructose and that is metabolised the same as alcohol

I use net carbs, because sometimes the uk system total "carbs less fibre" is wrong and it includes fibre
http://www.fatsecret.com.au/calories-nutrition/food/raspberries/carbohydrate

Carbs and Cala is my bible. There is a book and an app you can use. Give carbs, protein, fat, calories