Shocked and despondent!

Patrick66 · Jan 20, 2019

7.9!

That’s my fasting BS today.

And I have no idea how or why.

Two days away from a crucial HBA1c test and I’ve been going along between 3.3 and 6.8 and then this.

Yesterday I fasted till 11.00am, from 9.00 previous night. So 14 hours before a cup of tea. Lunch was mince with cheddar cheese, watercress and lettuce. 6 small strawberries later afternoon and then dinner was three chops, pile of broccoli and a small chopped carrot for variety. One more cup of tea and I drank water through the day. Last time anything passed my lips was 8.15 last night.

Oh, and three werthers sugar free sweets, at various intervals.

I am genuinely baffled.

Member496333 · Jan 20, 2019

Mince[-d beef?]. Three pork chops. Eggs. Cheese. Protein. Lots of it.

If you’re very insulin resistant then it may cause a measurable glucose response the following day in some individuals. In others it may not.

Patrick66 · Jan 20, 2019

Jim Lahey said:
Mince[-d beef?]. Three pork chops. Eggs. Cheese. Protein. Lots of it.

If you’re very insulin resistant then it may cause a measurable glucose response the following day in some individuals. In others it may not.

Just strange that it hasn’t before, or not to that extent at least.

Think I’ll continue the days fast until this evening. Thanks Jim.

Krystyna23040 · Jan 20, 2019

Jim Lahey said:
Mince[-d beef?]. Three pork chops. Eggs. Cheese. Protein. Lots of it.

If you’re very insulin resistant then it may cause a measurable glucose response the following day in some individuals. In others it may not.

Yes - that happens to me also - but not every time which is puzzling.

bulkbiker · Jan 20, 2019

Did you clean off your hands and test again? Sometimes you can get odd rogue results that come out of nowhere due to contamination of stuff on your finger.

Member496333 · Jan 20, 2019

Krystyna23040 said:
Yes - that happens to me also - but not every time which is puzzling.

Yeah it’s certainly multifactorial. As ever with biology, very little appears to be binary. The protein thing is actually much less of a factor for me now, as my insulin sensitivity has vastly improved, but it’s something to keep in mind as a possibility to experiment with if one is getting surprising or inexplicable fasting readings.

Anyway Patrick, don’t let it get you down. Onwards and upwards!

DCUKMod · Jan 20, 2019

@Patrick66 - My first thought, was the same as @bulkbiker . I'd also ask if you have changed to a new pot of strips? Some pots can read differently to others.

Are you under the weather at all? Did you sleep well?

There are so many things that can impact our bloods, but there's no big telltale item in your food diary to lead to a silly reading. A single blip won't materially impact your forthcoming A1c test.

Patrick66 · Jan 20, 2019

bulkbiker said:
Did you clean off your hands and test again? Sometimes you can get odd rogue results that come out of nowhere due to contamination of stuff on your finger.

No, I didn’t but I had just washed my hands.

Blood flow was slow this morning. Normally I bleed for England but there was a certain reluctance about the red stuff today.

Patrick66 · Jan 20, 2019

DCUKMod said:
@Patrick66 - My first thought, was the same as @bulkbiker . I'd also ask if you have changed to a new pot of strips? Some pots can read differently to others.

Are you under the weather at all? Did you sleep well?

There are so many things that can impact our bloods, but there's no big telltale item in your food diary to lead to a silly reading. A single blip won't materially impact your forthcoming A1c test.

Under the weather ?. Feel okay, touch of toothache but the dentist will sort that next week hopefully. No cough or cold. Same strip pot as before. Sleeping okay apart from extra loo trips as I seem to be full of water these days.

But stress levels rising with Tuesday being so important. Probably not helping.

DCUKMod · Jan 20, 2019

Patrick66 said:
Under the weather ?. Feel okay, touch of toothache but the dentist will sort that next week hopefully. No cough or cold. Same strip pot as before. Sleeping okay apart from extra loo trips as I seem to be full of water these days.

But stress levels rising with Tuesday being so important. Probably not helping.

If I were to speculate, I'd maybe go for the toothache being the culprit - especially if the toothache is a throbing/pressure style pain.

If your usual running range has been up to 6.8, then your reading is just over 1 up.

I appreciate that's scant consolation when you have a big day on Tuesdays, but sometimes we just have to shrug and move on (grumbling under our breath!).

Just wait and see what your numbers are on Tuesday. How quickly do you usually get your test result? If they're being done at the hospital, is it usually same day?

briped · Jan 20, 2019

Patrick66 said:
touch of toothache but the dentist will sort that next week hopefully

A tooth infection could very well bring up your levelss. What time of the day did you test? My levels had a tendency to rise from morning to noon till very recently. Probably dawn phenomenon. Don't worry. If you keep at it everything will be well again.

Patrick66 · Jan 20, 2019

DCUKMod said:
If I were to speculate, I'd maybe go for the toothache being the culprit - especially if the toothache is a throbing/pressure style pain.

If your usual running range has been up to 6.8, then your reading is just over 1 up.

I appreciate that's scant consolation when you have a big day on Tuesdays, but sometimes we just have to shrug and move on (grumbling under our breath!).

Just wait and see what your numbers are on Tuesday. How quickly do you usually get your test result? If they're being done at the hospital, is it usually same day?

Have to wait for a week.

Diabetic clinic is a week on Tuesday.

Patrick66 · Jan 20, 2019

briped said:
A tooth infection could very well bring up your levelss. What time of the day did you test? My levels had a tendency to rise from morning to noon till very recently. Probably dawn phenomenon. Don't worry. If you keep at it everything will be well again.

I tested just after 8.00 this morning. Same sort of time I usually run a weekend morning test.

briped · Jan 20, 2019

Patrick66 said:
I tested just after 8.00 this morning. Same sort of time I usually run a weekend morning test.

If I remember correctly you'e struggling to get those numbers down because you have an op coming up, right? I cross my fingers for you.

Deleted Account · Jan 20, 2019

Sorry to read of your high fasting BG this morning.
Bear in mind that Hb1AC measures an average over about 3 months. One or two high reading should have little impact on your hb1ac.
My fingers are crossed for you on Tuesday.

DCUKMod · Jan 20, 2019

Patrick66 said:
Have to wait for a week.

Diabetic clinic is a week on Tuesday.

Do you get your results at your Doc's surgery or at the hospital?

If my GP requests the bloods, irrespective of where the blood is drawn, the results are shown on my medical records as soon as they're back and have been seen by a Doc. At the hospital, I have to ring the Endo's PA about 48 hours after the test.

I had blood drawn on Wednesday last week (for my thyroid) and could see my results next morning, online. As I always have to have the blood drawn at 08:00, I sometimes have the results the same day.

The waiting is the worst bit!

Patrick66 · Jan 20, 2019

DCUKMod said:
Do you get your results at your Doc's surgery or at the hospital?

If my GP requests the bloods, irrespective of where the blood is drawn, the results are shown on my medical records as soon as they're back and have been seen by a Doc. At the hospital, I have to ring the Endo's PA about 48 hours after the test.

I had blood drawn on Wednesday last week (for my thyroid) and could see my results next morning, online. As I always have to have the blood drawn at 08:00, I sometimes have the results the same day.

The waiting is the worst bit!

I get them back at the surgery. I have no online access to test results and they won’t give them to me if I go in or ring them. It’s very frustrating.

Patrick66 · Jan 20, 2019

helensaramay said:
Sorry to read of your high fasting BG this morning.
Bear in mind that Hb1AC measures an average over about 3 months. One or two high reading should have little impact on your hb1ac.
My fingers are crossed for you on Tuesday.

Thank you. Hba1c, if it’s over three months, will be probably just as high. If it’s over a month then I’d stand a better chance and I’ve seen several threads indicating that it’s over a number of weeks, rather than months, and weighted to the last couple of weeks. If that was the case I might have a glimmer of hope.

Patrick66 · Jan 20, 2019

briped said:
If I remember correctly you'e struggling to get those numbers down because you have an op coming up, right? I cross my fingers for you.

Yes, I’m trying to get the numbers down so they will operate.

Bluetit1802 · Jan 20, 2019

Patrick66 said:
Yes, I’m trying to get the numbers down so they will operate.

and you are doing really well. Don't let one rogue reading stress you out, which won't help you. Put it down as a blip and try again tomorrow.

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