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- Diet drinks - the artificial sweeteners taste vile.
Having to forswear foods I have loved all my life.
Trying to find low carb meals when eating out.
Fascinating, @LittleGreyCat.
It also seems that it can take a while after switching to low carb for insulin level to lower. I remember that @CherryAA did a fasting insulin test quite a while into her low carb diet and it was still slightly elevated.
Just wondering -- Would it be possible that a fatty liver will release more glucose trying to rid itself of the fat, which then causes an insulin response, thus keeping insulin levels higher than normal? (At least for some time.) This would explain why it might take a while until we see the weight dropping. I also seem to remember reading that some argue that the more fundamental problem with T2D is the increased release of glucose from the liver.
Just thought I throw this out there. Curious about your thinking.
This did make me wonder if there are people who are strongly insulin resistant and therefore perforce are running higher insulin levels despite being on a low carbohydrate diet. This in turn would make it much harder to metabolise fats and thus much harder to lose weight. Perhaps they are forced to metabolise proteins to release glucose because they can't effectively metabolise fats.
Oh, and if your insulin concentration goes through the roof but you are massively insulin resistant then you can't get glucose into the cells, you also can't metabolise fats for energy, and your body starts to break down protein because it thinks that is all that is left. So DKA. Which would explain one thing that has puzzled me about DKA. I have always wondered why DKA came about if you can metabolise ketones. Perhaps all the metabolic pathways are slightly screwed up.
Hi @Guzzler,
Agree -- my experience is similar to yours -- I have to admit, though, that my HbA1c was very high at diagnosis, so maybe my insulin production was already compromised, making it easier to lose weight.
I remember reading that some members here initially had trouble losing weight. So, maybe some have higher insulin levels for longer. Too bad that insulin is rarely measured. I bet we would learn a lot if it was.
Following up on that thought @Guzzler, here is a link to a really great guest-post on hyperinsulinemia by Nick Mailer. He describes Dr. Kraft’s contribution to our knowledge base rather nicely:Kraft would agree with you.
Following up on that thought @Guzzler, here is a link to a really great guest-post on hyperinsulinemia by Nick Mailer. He describes Dr. Kraft’s contribution to our knowledge base rather nicely:
"Sugar Sugar Baby, Get On Down The Line, Part 2":https://baby.botherer.org/2018/01/sugar-sugar-baby-get-on-down-the-line-part-2/
Give it another try @Guzzler, I tried just now and it works. It is a brilliant piece, well worth a read! Here is a small snippet:I get the 'Web page not available' message on the link you give. I did see FatEmperor's interview with Dr. Kraft and many of the boffins cite his work.
Fascinating, @LittleGreyCat.
It also seems that it can take a while after switching to low carb for insulin level to lower. I remember that @CherryAA did a fasting insulin test quite a while into her low carb diet and it was still slightly elevated.
Just wondering -- Would it be possible that a fatty liver will release more glucose trying to rid itself of the fat, which then causes an insulin response, thus keeping insulin levels higher than normal? (At least for some time.) This would explain why it might take a while until we see the weight dropping. I also seem to remember reading that some argue that the more fundamental problem with T2D is the increased release of glucose from the liver.
Just thought I throw this out there. Curious about your thinking.
Following up on that thought @Guzzler, here is a link to a really great guest-post on hyperinsulinemia by Nick Mailer. He describes Dr. Kraft’s contribution to our knowledge base rather nicely:
"Sugar Sugar Baby, Get On Down The Line, Part 2":https://baby.botherer.org/2018/01/sugar-sugar-baby-get-on-down-the-line-part-2/
Following up on that thought @Guzzler, here is a link to a really great guest-post on hyperinsulinemia by Nick Mailer. He describes Dr. Kraft’s contribution to our knowledge base rather nicely:
"Sugar Sugar Baby, Get On Down The Line, Part 2":https://baby.botherer.org/2018/01/sugar-sugar-baby-get-on-down-the-line-part-2/
My bete noir is fat in my belly, which probably means fat in and around my organs. January (and beyond) is aimed at getting my waist measurement down.
Fascinating, @LittleGreyCat.
I also seem to remember reading that some argue that the more fundamental problem with T2D is the increased release of glucose from the liver.
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