There are 'NO CARBS' in Chicken!!!

uart said:

Yes I was wondering about that myself. He did seem slightly vague on that point in the video. His exact words were (2:45)



This seemed a little unclear to me. At first when he said "protein food" I thought perhaps he was talking about per ounce of whole food, but then at the end of the sentence he says "per ounce of protein", suggesting that it really is per ounce of just the protein content itself.

So my question to you Robert is: Are you certain about what he meant there, or are you also guessing? Because I am somewhat unsure.

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I am quite certain (he confused me at first by swapping between grams and ounces) - even Americans seem to measure macronutrients in grams, whereas they would measure a steak in ounces.

When researchers added differening amounts of protein and fat to a 30g, carb, 4g fat and 5g protein meal given to type 1 children, they found that the peak levels were at 90 min for all meals but
" compared with the LP/LF (control) breakfast, by the 5-hour mark the participants’ blood glucose was on average 45 mg/dL higher after the HP/LF breakfast, 63 mg/dL higher after the LP/HF breakfast, and 97.2 mg/dL higher after the HP/HF breakfast "
http://www.endocrineweb.com/profess...-raise-blood-glucose-children-type-1-diabetes
The high protein/high fat meal contained 30g carb, 40g protein and 35g fat so was a a lot more calories than the basic meal and probably far more filling but it also probably needed more insulin and an extended bolus.
It obviously doesn't show what would happen if theyhad started off with a Bernstein 6g of carb meal and added various amounts of fat and protein but it suggest that neither protein not fat are neutral in effect.

I think that we have to go by our own experience. If I eat a typical English breakfast where the only carbs are a few in the sausage and a few more in the tomato, I will still need as large a dose as with my normal poridge based breakfast. I also know that I have always to account for eggs when dosing So for example, a couple of boiled eggs with a bit of toast will require 2 more units of insulin than that same toast with some tinned tomatoes.

phoenix said:

The high protein/high fat meal contained 30g carb, 40g protein and 35g fat so was a a lot more calories than the basic meal and probably far more filling.

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That's for sure. You're looking at about four to five times the calories so it's hardly a "like for like" comparison.

The results make sense though. Gluconeogenesis can proceed using both amino acids and fatty acids.

I have never needed to bolus for protein. Although I have stumped the doctors when it comes to the type of diabetes I have, my consultant says that I'm functionally type 1, and won't consider me MODY although another consultant said I was MODY. I can munch away on meat and my blood sugar stays fairly stable, so I guess I'm lucky in that respect.

Spencer67 said:

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may be not but here they are full of arsenic and antibiotics