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Tiredness

foolsgold

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Hey how's it going, lately I'm so so tired, pale, black eyes, my overall blood isn't too bad it's just above normal, just wondering if anyone else gets extreme fatigue? Really getting me down lately
 
Diet examples please? also need to know what those BS readings are, your level of exercise, consumption of water ... in other words, the more info the better
 
I'm always thirsty even if my blood is 5/6 , I don't excerice, only go to work ( barman) diet for main meals is good, but I probably eat to many crisps/snacks, my blood is usually good under 10, but usually once a day it will go right up to 15/16. The tiredness is really bad! I've had all my bloods done and there is no other health issues, so doctor says it must be my diabetes
 

Hi Foolsgold, when you say what you are eating like crisp, these are a NO NO, you will have to cut out potatoes pasta, bread and lot of the high carbohydrates.

I think we need @daisy1 along with her long list of very helpful information for you. Please stay on the forum but ask as many questions as you can and have a browse around there are a lot of very helpful people here you have come to the right place. Your figures are running high are you already testing?

Neil
 
Ah really, thank you very much that's very helpful, I'll have to look up a low carbohydrate meals
Yeah I test my blood bout 4 times a day. cheers
 
Ah really, thank you very much that's very helpful, I'll have to look up a low carbohydrate meals
Yeah I test my blood bout 4 times a day. cheers
Hi,
You need to be testing just before you start eating then at least on 2 hours after, if you are more that 7.8 on the 2hrs then whatever you have eaten you need to revise either portion size or eliminate it all together. Normal people without diabetes max at 7.8 the guidelines from NICE for us is 8.5 but most try and keep below the 7.8. Also we all try, say if you are for example 5.7 before a meal then you should not move more the 2mmol say 7.7 after 2 hrs but you should be less. You don't want the spikes its them that cause the damage.

You say you work in a bar I have just been in the pub and hit, from 3 pints of Doonbar, 10.3 I'm going on the wine in future.

Do you know what your diabetic results were you can ask for them to be printed out at he doctors.
Neil
 
Ah thank you that's very helpful, yeah i think the root of my tiredness is my blood is up and down so much, what your saying about the 2mmol, is very helpful, keeping my blood steady.
He didn't tell me in much detail, just said it could be better, but I've been sent to a specialist
 

You still need to look round on here, once @daisy1 arrives you will be given a whole wealth of information, and on here there are lots more experienced people that can help.. It will take a lot of reading but once you get where everyone is at, it will start to fall into place an become a lot easier to get all your blood under control.
Neil
 
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Neil's raised some REALLY good points. Those "snacks" don't sound good and the crisps (as he's said) are dynamite.

A bigger breakdown of what you have for breakfast lunch and dinner would help us out and I'm betting we'll identify a few other "no no's"

What you drink will also factor into it I'm certain

Mike
 
Hi and welcome, @foolsgold (love the name)

Wonder what avatar pic you will choose? Aha! Just seen it. Hello!

I popped into your profile and saw you are type 2 and on insulin? That must be hard.
What type of insulin regime are you on? I ask because sometimes people are on fixed amounts, and tailor their meals to fit. While others eat what they like, and adjust their insulin to match.

Please don't go messing with your diet without carefully calculating what it means for your insulin!
(You probably know this already. Grandmothers. Egg sucking. But I had to mention it, just in case... )

When do your blood sugars go up to their highest, every day? And what are you eating beforehand?
 
I do eat a lot of toast/potatoes/chips, ham sandwich for lunch a lot with CRISPS, sometimes my diet can be worse than that
 
Hey I don't really do the carb counting, I couldn't get the hang of it, so I just kinda take a set amount, but adjust it slightly to what my bloods are,
 
are you T2 or T1 on insulin?
if you are T2, it's 80% diet and Low carb
if you are T1, it's insulin management and doseage, but lower carb snacks makes it easier
keeping your BG down is the goal of both
 
Hey I don't really do the carb counting, I couldn't get the hang of it, so I just kinda take a set amount, but adjust it slightly to what my bloods are,
Sounds like that may be the root of the problem.

I'm afraid what I know about insulin dosing would fit on the back of a postage stamp. But there are people on here who can give you masses of info - and @jack412 is one of them.

I'll pop in tomorrow, and see how you are getting on, but I'm afraid I have to go to bed now - early start. G'night.
 

Hello @foolsgold and welcome to the forum

Here is the information we give to new members which I hope you will find useful. It includes a lot of information about carbs which I think will help you.
Ask all the questions you need to and someone will be able to answer.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Could anyone give me a day of their diet, like what they eat, breakfast lunch dinner supper, would really help nice one .
 
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