Trulicity

layne56 · Jun 9, 2018

Hello all
I have read the horrid things about Trulicity.
They want to start me on it. Is there ANYTHING good to be said about it?
Thanks for reading xx

Jenny15 · Jun 10, 2018

layne56 said:
Hello all
I have read the horrid things about Trulicity.
They want to start me on it. Is there ANYTHING good to be said about it?
Thanks for reading xx

I don't know, but remember you don't have to take a medication if you're not comfortable with it's risk profile. I wouldn't touch this one with a 40 foot barge pole, personally.

Here's what Blood Sugar 101 says about it:
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/18538438.php

I know nothing about your situation or preferences but if you are being offered a GLP-1 agonist, have you read about the pros and cons of basal/bolus insulin therapy instead of mixed insulin? There is info in my signature.

I'm not advising, suggesting or recommending insulin treatment changes. Just asking a question. Feel free to ignore if you wish.

kitedoc · Jun 10, 2018

Hi @layne56,
I am TID but have been on insulin for 51 years.
What if you took a copy of the Blood Sugar 101 which @Jenny15 kindly posted to your next diabetes appointment.?
That information provides you with substance for your concerns and allows your doctor to understand them better.
Also you can ask about Trulicty vs insulin so that the appointment does not get potentially bogged down with just talking about the alternatives to Trulicity.
T2ds I know have been wary of mixed insulins : the ones with suffixes like -Mix, or 30/70, 30:70 and 50:50 after the drug name, as they found they gained weight on them which negated some of their benefits of lowering blood sugars. Again something to discuss with the doctor.
I cannot say anything about the low carb diets etc beyond suggesting you read about them on this site and follow up the references to other articles. If a diet can help people to lose weight safely and that improves their diabetes control and sometimes they can reduce or stop some diabetes medications, well it bears investigation and , if appropriate, a dietician could be most helpful here. I have seen an article on this site saying that the NHS has approved low carb diets. Unfortunately I have lost the reference but will send it when I find it !!
Best Wishes for next appointment and for your journey.

layne56 · Jun 10, 2018

Thankyou for those words, and for the link.
I am on insulin - Humalog 25/75 and Lixisenatide.
My bloods are not behaving themselves at the moment, I had managed to take my units right down and was steady, but Docs in their wisdom - have changed some of my meds, and now I cant hold my blood sugars down, and my hb1's have gone up.
From reading everything, I do not think I will be using it and will be asking for a mix of insulins instead. Ah the joys of getting older and diabetes.
Thank you xxx

Jenny15 · Jun 11, 2018

layne56 said:
Thankyou for those words, and for the link.
I am on insulin - Humalog 25/75 and Lixisenatide.
My bloods are not behaving themselves at the moment, I had managed to take my units right down and was steady, but Docs in their wisdom - have changed some of my meds, and now I cant hold my blood sugars down, and my hb1's have gone up.
From reading everything, I do not think I will be using it and will be asking for a mix of insulins instead. Ah the joys of getting older and diabetes.
Thank you xxx

By "mix of insulins instead" do you mean a long acting once or twice daily insulin like Lantus or Levemir (as examples), and a short acting insulin for mealtimes, and not using any pre-mixed insulin? If so, that is an approach I consider can work better for a T2 than using a pre-mixed insulin, based on what I have read about it at Blood Sugar 101. If you would like more info I am happy to share my experiences,

layne56 · Jun 11, 2018

Jenny15 said:
By "mix of insulins instead" do you mean a long acting once or twice daily insulin like Lantus or Levemir (as examples), and a short acting insulin for mealtimes, and not using any pre-mixed insulin? If so, that is an approach I consider can work better for a T2 than using a pre-mixed insulin, based on what I have read about it at Blood Sugar 101. If you would like more info I am happy to share my experiences,

Hi
I am going to tell docs that I am not going to use trulicity and I want to come off lixisenitide. I see they cause thyroid problems. ... guess what. ..I have an overactive thyroid.
I am on Humalog 25/75. I am going to ask for the 50/50 one too and use both of them together.

Jenny15 · Jun 11, 2018

layne56 said:
Hi
I am going to tell docs that I am not going to use trulicity and I want to come off lixisenitide. I see they cause thyroid problems. ... guess what. ..I have an overactive thyroid.
I am on Humalog 25/75. I am going to ask for the 50/50 one too and use both of them together.

Thanks for clarifying. Your signature says you are taking Forgixa too, is that info still current? The reason I ask is because if you get the right insulin regime going, you might want to discuss stopping Forgixa (and it probably isn't doing much good for the side effects/risks, according to what I've read.)

(Disclaimer for others: I am not giving medical advice, and @layne56 is about to discuss meds with the doctors.)

Using one or both types of mixed insulin may not help you achieve your BG goals. There is an excellent explanation of how this works at the Blood Sugar 101 blog post below, especially at point #3.

"Because for most people these 70/30 insulins [make] it very hard to lower blood sugar anywhere near normal they are likely to produce the much too high blood sugars that lead to complications."

http://diabetesupdate.blogspot.com/2008/10/making-insulin-work.html

layne56 · Jun 11, 2018

Jenny15 said:
Thanks for clarifying. Your signature says you are taking Forgixa too, is that info still current? The reason I ask is because if you get the right insulin regime going, you might want to discuss stopping Forgixa (and it probably isn't doing much good for the side effects/risks, according to what I've read.)

(Disclaimer for others: I am not giving medical advice, and @layne56 is about to discuss meds with the doctors.)

Using one or both types of mixed insulin may not help you achieve your BG goals. There is an excellent explanation of how this works at the Blood Sugar 101 blog post below, especially at point #3.

"Because for most people these 70/30 insulins [make] it very hard to lower blood sugar anywhere near normal they are likely to produce the much too high blood sugars that lead to complications."

http://diabetesupdate.blogspot.com/2008/10/making-insulin-work.html

Hi again
Oh just ignore what my signature says lol I am no longer on alot of that now. Things keep changing so much.
I have read the blog and found it very interesting. I have some thinking to do before I go back.
Thank you for that xx

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