softgirl123
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- Type of diabetes
- Type 1
- Treatment type
- Diet only
It's actually not like disabled badge holders using a card when not entitled. That is fraud plain and simple, this is an administrative issue. T1's are ALL entitled to free prescriptions and there has been no attempt to defraud the NHS here.ms to me to be that it is a very random process as well. Who is checking this and how? Myself, Jaylee, Molivers73 etc have never really had exemption cards yet only one has been fined. Has anyone here ever heard of another diabetic being fined for this? There must be many more that don't have exemptions that also haven't been fined so if it's going to be done they should do it properly or it begins to look exactly what it is..a half ***** discriminatory old fashioned approach that either needs reviewing or scrapping.
Hi You need an exemption certificate, which you should have obtained and renewed every 5 years after diagnoses.
Basically what you have done is signed your prescription saying you have an exemption certificate when you do not, so as far as the nhs is concerned it's a fraudulent claim. So eat humble pie get the form filled in and signed by your GP and send it off.
I hHi You need an exemption certificate, which you should have obtained and renewed every 5 years after diagnoses.
Basically what you have done is signed your prescription saying you have an exemption certificate when you do not, so as far as the nhs is concerned it's a fraudulent claim. So eat humble pie get the form filled in and signed by your GP and send it off.
I agree with some of the other posts, a letter from you explaining you never been informed should suffice with a letter from your gp to confirm when you were diagnosed. fill out your form to apply for the exemption card now and in the mean time if you get receipts when paying for your medication, the chemist should re-imburse you once you get your card. this is what I did. unfortunately , chemists will know you are exempt by the meds you use and don't always ask to see the exemption card. I do think it is bad form by the NHS thoughHi I have just received a letter saying i have to pay a £96 fine for not having a valid medical exemption certificate. I was diagnosed Type 1 in 1998 and have never paid for prescriptions since. Nobody has ever told me about this. Has anyone else had the same thing and if so what was the outcome?
This is pretty similar to my experience in that I've been told I was medically exempt so don't have to pay. I've still not paid for anything yet, or any fines, despite never having seen any sort of certificate.
Whilst I do think it is unfair, at the end of the day, is it worth going to Court for?
Ignorance is no defence of the law. Surely you read what you sign? It's better to eat humble pie and see if you can be let off than having to cough up for the prescription. You are lucky they haven't asked for money going back to 1998 when you were diagnosed. As what you have done it's lucky you haven't been summoned and convicted of fraud.
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No, the rules changed in 2002, but they didn't inform people who used to have blanket exemption before that point. In 2002, the info wasn't available online, so they'd have had to write speculatively to DH to ask if an irrational rule change had occurred. Diagnosis before 2002 would mean they didn't get reminder letters either. Finally, it's illegal for them to raise a charge if the individual didn't knowingly deceive the NHS. Section 122 of the Health Act 1999, or 194 of the NHS Act 2006 (same wording). Stop defending an indefensible, illegal act and stand beside your fellow diabetics. It is depressing that you acquiesced so quickly to this unfair victimisation of other people. Are you really that much of a pushover?
If anyone would like to know how to get around it, simply point out that the pharmacist never asked you for your certificate. My charge was waived as a misunderstanding and I'll now fight for a blanket exemption, such as is enjoyed by those under 16 and over 60. Easily administered in those cases, as it should be in the case of incurable conditions.
Good to know this, I was diagnosed in Jan 2013, all has been ok with my GP to date, long may it continue.
i said my card was not asked for but they said it wasnt their responseability.it was mine.will check out section 122 of the health act.Re
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No, the rules changed in 2002, but they didn't inform people who used to have blanket exemption before that point. In 2002, the info wasn't available online, so they'd have had to write speculatively to DH to ask if an irrational rule change had occurred. Diagnosis before 2002 would mean they didn't get reminder letters either. Finally, it's illegal for them to raise a charge if the individual didn't knowingly deceive the NHS. Section 122 of the Health Act 1999, or 194 of the NHS Act 2006 (same wording). Stop defending an indefensible, illegal act and stand beside your fellow diabetics. It is depressing that you acquiesced so quickly to this unfair victimisation of other people. Are you really that much of a pushover?
If anyone would like to know how to get around it, simply point out that the pharmacist never asked you for your certificate. My charge was waived as a misunderstanding and I'll now fight for a blanket exemption, such as is enjoyed by those under 16 and over 60. Easily administered in those cases, as it should be in the case of incurable conditions.
i said my card was not asked for but they said it wasnt their responseability.it was mine.will check out section 122 of the health act.
great advice.willdo this tomorrow.front
Just to add to this, I have never had a certificate and just assumed that as the only reason for insulin was to treat diabetes there would be no need to get one. I have been T1 since 1983! No one has ever said a thing to me about this.
I suppose I will get one sorted now but this does seem like bureaucratic nonsense really and one of the many ways in which the NHS could save itself some money by reviewing processes.
For example when registering with a new GP I have to see the nurse before I then get to see the specialists at the hospital etc. The nurse often knows less than I do about T1 so why can't the GP just refer me directly? Sorry to derail the thread a bit but stuff like this annoys me
Hi I have had type 1 diabetes for 22 plus years, I filled out exemption certificate when first diagnosed and was told by the G.P this would make me exempt for life. I received exemption certificate cards there after until about 8 years ago, told my G.p and he told me I was exempt for life and did not need a new certificate. then in december last year I got a penalty notice spoke to the agency who claimed they could not find any evidence I ever had one and that they only lasted 5 years , and you had to renew them did some investigating and discovered that the department of health had sold the contract for exemption certificates to this recent company recently, and that the information had not been transfered over to them. spoke to diabetes u.k careline who told me they had been looking into this as 1000 of diabetics had been effected there chief executive had had a meeting with DOH who agreed that they would not send penalties to diabetics but letters to warn them to get valid exemption certificates which they have not done I was advised to talk to my M.P which I have, awaiting what will happen next, but I will not be paying the penalty notice. Plus your exemption certificates are not automatically reissued as some of you have quoted you have to do it if you don't it will just run out and they will only back date exemption certificate for 1 month end of. I also think that some of the threads on this feed have been quite offensive to people and living with our condition is bad enough and if you have had it since a teenager like myself you are not properly informed like newly diagnosed mainly type 2 diabetics are today if you are diagnosed as a child you do not pay for prescriptions anyway.Hi I have just received a letter saying i have to pay a £96 fine for not having a valid medical exemption certificate. I was diagnosed Type 1 in 1998 and have never paid for prescriptions since. Nobody has ever told me about this. Has anyone else had the same thing and if so what was the outcome?
Hi I have had type 1 diabetes for 22 plus years, I filled out exemption certificate when first diagnosed and was told by the G.P this would make me exempt for life. I received exemption certificate cards there after until about 8 years ago, told my G.p and he told me I was exempt for life and did not need a new certificate. then in december last year I got a penalty notice spoke to the agency who claimed they could not find any evidence I ever had one and that they only lasted 5 years , and you had to renew them did some investigating and discovered that the department of health had sold the contract for exemption certificates to this recent company recently, and that the information had not been transfered over to them. spoke to diabetes u.k careline who told me they had been looking into this as 1000 of diabetics had been effected there chief executive had had a meeting with DOH who agreed that they would not send penalties to diabetics but letters to warn them to get valid exemption certificates which they have not done I was advised to talk to my M.P which I have, awaiting what will happen next, but I will not be paying the penalty notice. Plus your exemption certificates are not automatically reissued as some of you have quoted you have to do it if you don't it will just run out and they will only back date exemption certificate for 1 month end of. I also think that some of the threads on this feed have been quite offensive to people and living with our condition is bad enough and if you have had it since a teenager like myself you are not properly informed like newly diagnosed mainly type 2 diabetics are today if you are diagnosed as a child you do not pay for prescriptions anyway.
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Hi I have just received a letter saying i have to pay a £96 fine for not having a valid medical exemption certificate. I was diagnosed Type 1 in 1998 and have never paid for prescriptions since. Nobody has ever told me about this. Has anyone else had the same thing and if so what was the outcome?
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