TYpical days eating

Hi cjc, If your blood sugars are not coming down then you need to look at the amount of carbs you are eating.Get yourself a carb counting book and check out how much carbs you are eating in a day.
Just looking at your menu I can see that perhaps you could be cutting down on the portion size of the starchy carbs like potatoes,pasta ,bread etc.Try making these portions smaller and see if that has a positive effect on your blood sugars.It's all a bit trial and error at first but once you find a few meals that work you will be on your way to better control and also hopefully lose some weight as well.

Hi
As sue said, you'll need to cut your carb intake to get thoe numbers down without a more aggressive medicine treatment. You will also have to re-learn what constitutes a healthy diet. Fat is not your enemy. Carbs are!. That is sugars and starch. Healthy wholegrains aren't! Not for anyone, but especally not for diabetics.
I'll comment on your eating, if you don't take offence


Oat so simpledelicious, but full of carbs 62% sachet milk cup of tea sweetner
banana /applealso full of sugars and starch banana23%, apple 12%
Tuna salad or spagetti[color=#408000[color=#FF4000]]Starch28% cooked [/color] on toast 50%more starch with 2 slices whole meal toast 42%Starch no butter
stir fry/or meat and 2 veg with boiled potsstarch17% or omelette with mushrooms pepps etc
hi lights hot choc or if it is the weekend a glass or 2 of wine just a bit of advice about if I am eating the wrong things I am taking acibose and 1500 metaformin a day as well been tajking these the last 4 weeks thanks guys and gals :wink:[/color]

I hope that shows tou where your blood sugar is coming rfrom. Table sugar turns 50% into blood glucose, FAST. Starch turns 100% into Glucose SLOWER.
If you get yourself a book of nutrition tables. ( the Collins little GemCalorie Counter doesn't cost much) you can monitor how much carb you are eating.
If your Healthcare team tell you you NEED to eat complex carbs. Tell them what it does to blood sugar and ignore them.

Hi cjc, welcome to the forum.

Well, you're certainly asking the right questions. Your blood sugars will remain high when you eat foods which are high in starches. These convert quickly to glucose and you're seeing the results on your meter.
From your menu, the breakfast cereal, toast, spaghetti, potatoes and fruit will all raise your blood sugars quite significantly. The tuna, meat, eggs, vegetables and wine will have a far smaller effect and I would predict if you ate more of the latter and less of the former, you will see an immediate improvement.
It will seem counter-intuitive at first, but you'll find that the butter is much better for you than the toast!

All the best,

fergus

Must confess I shuddered - but you are probably eating what you have been told. Unfortunately as you have found it doesn't work!

Start here and have a read around

http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2006/10/d-day.html

the one major advantage of this disease is that you can see the immediate effect of what you eat and what you do - so long as you have a monitor.

I tried that Oat so simple, wow, shot my blood sugar so high! Soon as I found out had to stop immediatley. I think its because its so processed and made from fine white flour :shock:

My typical day's eating can be like tghis:
Breakfast: 2 scrambled eggs with some mushrooms or smoked salmon with 2 finncrisp slim rye crispbreads
Lunch: Tuna/turkey/steak with a big salad( Lettuce,cucumber, radish, peppers, tomatoes, beetroot, gerkhins, herbs, olives or what ever tickles my fancy at the time)
Dinner: Pan fried fish with broccoli, carrots and leeks or roasted chicken breast with extra virgin olive oil on a bed of onions, peppers, tomatoes and gourgette.

For snacks I often have a piece of fruit in the morning, sugarfree jelly with squirty cream or berries or a handful of nuts and seeds. I have also found that 70%or over dark chocolate has not got a noticeable effect on my bs so I can have 30-40 g bar of that occasionally. I know I don't have to snack as a type 2 on metformin but I have reduced my portion sizes dramatically so feel hungry every couple of hours or so,

I am at the beginning of my journey so I don't yet know how different carbs effect me so I'm playing around with them soon, I do like my brown rice and quinoa etc so will reintroduce some of them back into my diet soon. I also find it a bit difficult to reverse the low fat way of thinking since I have a lot of weight to lose but have found over the last week or so that meals with some cheese, oil or butter are definitely the way to go since they seem to keep me satisfied longer. My stupid cravings for crisps has almost disappeared for the moment because I know I can have some seeds or nuts, which are very restricted on a normal wight loss program. I seem to be losing weight reasonably too, which is good!

Saz1, your daily menu sounds fantastic - I'm certain you'll make huge progress with your diabetes and weight loss if those principles become a habit.

cjc, that's a perfect example of a diet which is full of great nutrition, protein and healthy fats, with negligable amounts of the sorts of carbs which lead to trouble. Also, take a look at the Success Stories thread, and the recipes thread too.

All the best,

fergus

Thanks Fergus, it's good to know that I'm getting there. In many ways I haven't found it too difficult since I love meat, fish and veg and it is an added bonus that I can have cream, cheese, butter, nuts and oil in moderation too! Oh, and eggs too. All the things that we have been told are the most dangerous when in fact they are the most helpful... I have also kind of decided that if I have carbs (rice, pasta or pots) I'll have them with my lunch since I do my exercise in the evenings thus will be utilising them better. This may prove difficult the next time I get munchies or hormonal since thats when I usually go mad. I just have to try and have a prawn cocktail instead of a bowl of pasta... :shock:

I'm afraid my typical day's eating goes like this:

Breakfast: I insulin injection; one glibenclamide tablet, one Cozaar tablet.

Lunch: 1 can diet coke

Dinner: I small chicken breast. I portion green veggies. 1 slice bread and real butter (for roughage more than anything else); I yoghurt. I insulin injection; I statin, I Glucophage tablet.

I DO NOT recommend this to anyone else but it works for me!!

I personally dont favour very low carbing as a regular regime but instead opt for 'lowish' carb control and that seems to work for me.

I find that Scotts Porridge Oats are amazingly good at lowering my morning bg levels. I eat the ones from the yellow box that are big and there is no added salt or sugar. I have semi-slimmed milk with them and dont eat again until lunchtime. I've checked, and they really do lower my bg, not raise it.

Spaghetti on toast is a waste of your carbs allowance, i feel. The spaghetti is white and has added sugar and the bread/toast goes mushy anyway so you dont get that satisfying bite and chew thing, lol.

Sling out all white carbs and substitute smaller amounts of brown carbs, which are more slow to release their glucose into the blood and add fibre anyway.

Good luck!

bunty

How about a tin of ratatouille on a grilled portobello mushroom(or 2!)? That's my fave at the moment