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what constitutes low carb

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
I have just had a look at the vegan recipes thing and although they all look absolutely delicious and wonderful. I am surprised,not for the first time, to read the nutritional information often gives values for carbohydrate content as high as 36.5g per 100g. Is this sort of food really suitable for people with type two diabetes? I don't eat anything unless it's less than 1g of carbohydrate (of which sugars) per 100g. Am I being too stringent? My blood glucose readings don't tell me so. I clearly haven't got a grasp of what proportion of your diet should be carbohydrate.
I'm going for an information session and my first dose of GLP-1 medication on dec 6th but in the meantime does anybody have any facts about this or can make a recommendation for good articles/books on this subject.
I know that everyone is different and I suppose it's a question of syncing your diet with your blood glucose/ HbA1c results but is there a sort of standard rule of thumb for what is a good amount of carbohydrate to consume, a daily recommended level or some such knocking about out there somewhere because lots of specialist diabetic recipes seem to contain lots of the stuff?
Thank you for your time
rosaflorabunda
 
An average diet on an average person generally would consist of Approx 250g/300g carbohydrate
So under 200g could be considered low carb, though generally it would be less than 120g
Not all diabetics find a lower carb diet works for them and not all can follow a LCHF diet, me being one (cannot digest fat)(or lots of other things)
So you could follow a lower carb, a low carb or a very low carb diet. It is entirely individual to the person
I'll tag @daisy1 to give you some info on the site
 
Welcome to the forum.

Many people have had success by using a blood glucose meter to test themselves to see how their blood glucose levels respond to different foods. If it's too high after a meal, they reduce the amount of carbs the next time and see how it goes. Keep reducing until the blood glucose levels in response to the meal are reasonable.

This page explains this method in detail:

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php
 
@rosaflorabunda I tend to use 5g or under in 100g. Do you keep a food diary? I use myfitnesspal website as I can keep tabs on my calorie and carbohydrate intake and also keep an exercise log
 
Hi and welcome,

Can we assume you are vegan from the first sentence of your post?

There is a thread here with vegan recipes

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/vegan-meals.88333/

and there is a good thread here for newcomers to low carb

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-new-low-carb-guide-for-beginners.68695/

How many carbs you eat is entirely up to you. A meter will tell you what your personal threshold is, and the general rule is "eat to your meter" I started this journey on around 120g but soon realised this was too many, so reduced gradually over a period of time and am now happy at around 30g carbs daily. But that is me!
 
@rosaflorabunda

Hello and welcome to the forum Here is the basic information we give to new members and I think you will find it answers some of your questions. Ask more questions when you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Hi @rosaflorabunda I don't know to which recipe you refer. I often post on the vegan meals thread on this forum and have non-diabetic levels eating this way (I am T2 on metformin). I don't limit myself to only buying foods with a certain amount of carbs per 100g. For example, vanilla extract contains 13g carbs per 100g, but nobody ever necks 100g of the stuff in one sitting.

The standard rule of thumb would be to "eat to your meter".

The vegetarian sub-forum here is not specifically low carb as it includes members who eat moderate carbs and/or inject insulin.
 
Thank you for your response and time. I think your advice of eating to your meter is really good and will free me up to more food choices. I have been really limiting myself, getting great readings but also getting very bored and was feeling that being a diabetic was THE most boring difficult thing in the world to be. I think I'll try a few sensible but less stringent recipes/food choices and see what results show up.
 
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