I'm still not getting it, sorry.
If I stop eating I get hungry. If I'm hungry for long enough I will get anxious. The longer I stop eating for the hungrier I get, the worse I feel, and the more anxious I am. Even if I know that food is available and I could eat if I chose I'm still getting more and more hungry and more and more anxious. This happens whether I've told myself I'm fasting or starving myself.
So it seems to me that the difference between fasting and starvation really is a combination of a state of mind and a dictionary definition.
I'm still not getting it, sorry.
If I stop eating I get hungry. If I'm hungry for long enough I will get anxious. The longer I stop eating for the hungrier I get, the worse I feel, and the more anxious I am. Even if I know that food is available and I could eat if I chose I'm still getting more and more hungry and more and more anxious. This happens whether I've told myself I'm fasting or starving myself.
So it seems to me that the difference between fasting and starvation really is a combination of a state of mind and a dictionary definition.
I'm still not getting it, sorry.
If I stop eating I get hungry. If I'm hungry for long enough I will get anxious. The longer I stop eating for the hungrier I get, the worse I feel, and the more anxious I am. Even though I know that food is available and I could eat if I chose I'm still getting more and more hungry and more and more anxious. This happens whether I've told myself I'm fasting or starving myself.
So it seems to me that the difference between fasting and starvation really is a combination of a state of mind and a dictionary definition.
Starving is eating an inadequate amount of food but still eating something.
Fasting is eating nothing - a complete abstinence.
However your anxiety problems would seem to preclude you being able to fast.
As some-one who has used extended fasting in the past and who restricts their eating window (but feasts when they eat so not starving) I would say that it probably wouldn't be a great therapy for you.
For me it worked like a dream and continues to do so.
I was concentrating on the biological and the physical aspects, and to some extent the dictionary definition.
Then why contemplate fasting?I have another question on this subject. There are people who feel fine when going through what they term "fasting" (but I can't distinguish from theoretical starvation).
I feel awful. I feel anxious, hungry, dizzy, weak, exhausted, and my balance, which is never good, gets much, much worse and I start falling over. I can barely talk in complete sentences and my memory, which is also never good, deteriorates noticeably. And I can't understand why this isn't the same for everyone.
I believe that the experts mostly say NOT to fast if you are underweight but I'd add finding it difficult to absorb nutrients to that list unless you are eating very well/supplementing on advice, around the fasts? Personally I've topped out at 3-4 days because a) I could not sleep b) some people feel that more than 2-3 days lead to muscle mass loss which if true would be detrimental to your insulin sensitivity. Obviously you do need to believe in the therapeutic benefits of fasting for someone like yourself with pre diabetes otherwise around about day 2 you will get very hungry and wonder why you are 'starving yourself' versus thinking I am hungry but this will pass and I am stripping my liver of fat so that I will become less diabetic...etc.etc.If someone had ever said that the difference between fasting and starvation was mostly a state of mind then I probably would have been much less frustrated by it. I was concentrating on the biological and the physical aspects, and to some extent the dictionary definition. However, based on the answers I've had to my post that isn't what makes starvation and fasting different, is it? But nobody ever mentions the mental attitude part of it. I was looking for a truth that could be physically proved with numbers and a dictionary, and it seems that, mostly, there isn't one.
What makes me anxious is not understanding something. If thousands of people kept on telling me, over and over again, that 2 + 2 = 5 then that would make me anxious too.
Thank you everyone. I think I've got it now.
My wife started low carbing the other day. She lasted just a couple of days. She finds it makes her weak. If she doesn’t have her mainstream diet of carbs with most meals, that is what happens. I don’t understand that either as it doesn’t happen to me.I have another question on this subject. There are people who feel fine when going through what they term "fasting" (but I can't distinguish from theoretical starvation).
I feel awful. I feel anxious, hungry, dizzy, weak, exhausted, and my balance, which is never good, gets much, much worse and I start falling over. I can barely talk in complete sentences and my memory, which is also never good, deteriorates noticeably. And I can't understand why this isn't the same for everyone.
Then why contemplate fasting?
Fasting has not helped me loose weight. It does lower my BG for a week or so after.I would love to be able to fast and lose weight like others do. I'm hypothyroid and my weight is going up and up. For the last few years I've felt like I'm re-living my late mother's life (in health terms), and I know how big she got. I don't want to follow in her footsteps.
I would love to be able to fast and lose weight like others do. I'm hypothyroid and my weight is going up and up. For the last few years I've felt like I'm re-living my late mother's life (in health terms), and I know how big she got. I don't want to follow in her footsteps.
I lost weight without fasting. I would have fasted if I was able and may have lost weight more quickly but LCHF did the job for me. If you can start with Intermittent Fasting after a few weeks or months of a low carb way of eating you may find that easier and less worrying.I would love to be able to fast and lose weight like others do. I'm hypothyroid and my weight is going up and up. For the last few years I've felt like I'm re-living my late mother's life (in health terms), and I know how big she got. I don't want to follow in her footsteps.
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