67 years old and scared of the future!

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Hello fellow sufferers,

Today my suspicions were confirmed by my doctor telephoning me and ordering me to stop consuming any sugars!

It has been at least a year since the symptoms started making their presence known but only 3 days since the blood tests confirmed the situation.

I have been given an appointment with a Diabetes expert for Tuesday next week but I have been getting very confusing information since my doctor called.

Can someone here explain just what giving up "all Sugars" actually means?



I DO understand that my Tea and my Cereal must be used with a sweetener, which I have purchased but what about all the other things?

I am drinking like a fish, no not alcohol, loads of water with Lime Cordial, Low calorie Bitter Lemon or just plain tap water.


Without guidelines in the form of a list I just get more and more confused!

It is a minefield just trying to negotiate this web site.

If you have just a few moments please can someone advise in a list form what I should be avoiding?

Sincerely Peter.
 
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Avocado Sevenfold

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Hi Peter. Welcome to the forum.

If I had to make a list of foods to avoid or limit it would include

Pasta
Rice
Cereal
Pastry
Wheat flour
Tropical fruits
Potatoes
Root vegetables
Beers and ciders
Sugar
Sweeties
Cakes
Bread
 
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Bluetit1802

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Hello Peter and welcome to the club.

First of all, don't panic and don't be afraid of the future. This disease can be controlled, but diet is the key. @daisy1 will be along soon with some advice given to all newcomers.

Yes, avoid sugar and anything made with sugar. You know what those things are. However, it isn't just sugar. Other things contain sugar in various forms, such as fruit and milk. The most important thing to try and get your head round is that carbohydrates also convert to glucose once inside the system, and we don't need this. The worst culprits are bread, potatoes, rice, pasta and cereals. These foods need reducing in quantity and maybe even avoiding altogether. Cut down the carbs, avoid some of the worst offenders, cut out fruit as much as possible (berries are best, in moderation) and of course, avoid anything sweet.

Please have a read round the forum, take big deep breaths, and remember you must take things slowly at first. Your most important tool will be a blood glucose meter so you can test out what certain foods do to your sugar levels. If your doctor hasn't or won't give you one, as most won't, then please consider buying your own.

Come back with any questions, and good luck.
 
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NoCrbs4Me

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Carbohydrates are turned into glucose in your body. Sugar is half fructose and half glucose. Things like potatoes, rice, pasta, bread etc turn into all glucose.

In other words, bread is actually worse than table sugar for a type 2 diabetic.

I recommend you read through this website:

http://www.phlaunt.com/

It will explain just about everything you need to know.

The best advice I can give you (and which I wish I had been given sooner) is:

1. Get a blood glucose meter.
2. Measure your blood glucose before, 1 hour and 2 hours after you eat a typical meal (no snacking after the meal)
3. Adjust carbs in your meals until the blood glucose level does not rise more than 2.
 
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nancyb

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Hello Peter
Don't be scared, you've come to the right place. Have a look at what people are saying about low-carb diets (you may see it written as LCHF which is low carb high fat)
There are lots of people on this site who will help you, and lots of newbies like us too! Good luck!
 
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LittleGreyCat

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Having to forswear foods I have loved all my life.
Trying to find low carb meals when eating out.
The official welcome post with loads of information should be along shortly.

For the moment, avoiding all sugar is a good start, but this includes sugar in foods as well as spoons of sugar in your tea and on your cereal (more about your cereal in a moment).

Things that have lots of sugar - fruit squashes, fruit juice, fruit (especially tropical fruits like pineapple). Berries have sugar but are not as bad.

Most packaged food contains sugar - so if you look at the label you will usually see a table of weight per 100 grams which includes stuff like "40 grams carbohydrates of which 20 grams sugar".

So it is wise to check your food labels and avoid anything with much sugar in it.

This is likely to include breakfast cereal.

Talking of breakfast cereal - that label which says "carbohydrates of which sugar" gives you a hint that sugar is a carbohydrate.
Sugar is generally the fastest to get into your blood stream as glucose.
However other carbohydrates will quickly turn to sugar, so it is sensible to look carefully at how many carbohydrates you are eating.
Things like bread, breakfast cereals, potatoes can all be very high in carbohydrates.
The main things to avoid whilst you work out your new eating plan is puddings and pies.
Anything made with pastry is made with flour so is made from carbohydrate.
Sweets and puddings are...well....sweet.

So - read as much as you can on this site, but mainly DON'T PANIC!
All will gradually become clear as you learn more about your condition.

I would check the lime juice bottle, though, to see how much sugar there is in it.
Safest thing in the short term is to drink only tea, coffee but mainly water.
If you are always thirsty this is one of the classic symptoms.

When newly diagnosed it can seem that whatever you do your blood sugar remains high, but if you persevere you should stabilise.

Cheers

LGC
 
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My sincere thanks to all for such a speedy response! I had been left in the lurch as to what to do next!

Reading your posts means that I have nothing in my home that is in any way "Sugar free"!

Since I cannot see to drive (Since the onset of the tougher symptoms I have to sit about 3 feet from the monitor or the TV screen!) it is going to prove difficult to replenish my stocks!

Hopefully in the short time until Tuesday* it will not matter too much? (* My appointment with the Diabetes Counsellor)

Thankyou again, I really appreciate your efforts, Peter.
 

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Hi Peter .. We have all been there .. It gets better once you are incontroll.. And with the help of the forums here you will soon be a lot more optimistic about the future .. Ask questions .. Are you T1or2 ..
 
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My sincere thanks to all for such a speedy response! I had been left in the lurch as to what to do next!

Reading your posts means that I have nothing in my home that is in any way "Sugar free"!

Since I cannot see to drive (Since the onset of the tougher symptoms I have to sit about 3 feet from the monitor or the TV screen!) it is going to prove difficult to replenish my stocks!

Hopefully in the short time until Tuesday* it will not matter too much? (* My appointment with the Diabetes Counsellor)

Thankyou again, I really appreciate your efforts, Peter.
i an sure you will have something in your kitchen that's low in carbs .. Eggs, chease, vegetables.. But not potatoes ... If your not vegetarian then meat ...
 
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Hi Peter .. We have all been there .. It gets better once you are incontroll.. And with the help of the forums here you will soon be a lot more optimistic about the future .. Ask questions .. Are you T1or2 ..


Sorry my apologies.
I have been informed that I have Diabetes 2.
 

Enclave

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i an sure you will have something in your kitchen that's low in carbs .. Eggs, chease, vegetables.. But not potatoes ... If your not vegetarian then meat ...
Also have you tried online shopping .. The big main supermarkets all do online shopping with home deliveries.
 
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Most food have some sugar albeit natural ones so we can't avoid it altogether but just try to cut out the ones that have added sugar like cakes biscuits sweetened drinks etc Just cutting those to start with will be a big help to your BG levels then you can try having smaller portions of the starchy carbs like bread pasta and potatoes and see how you go
 

Patricia21

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Hi Peter.
I was very scared as well in June..thats normal,Im no longer scared,I have had so much help from this forum and got blood sugar right down.also bad cholestrol down,just spend time looking at posts,and if you want to know anything just ask and you will get help.
Dont get stressed it dosent help,you will be fine.
 
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Sancho panza

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Hello fellow sufferers,

Today my suspicions were confirmed by my doctor telephoning me and ordering me to stop consuming any sugars!

It has been at least a year since the symptoms started making their presence known but only 3 days since the blood tests confirmed the situation.

I have been given an appointment with a Diabetes expert for Tuesday next week but I have been getting very confusing information since my doctor called.

Can someone here explain just what giving up "all Sugars" actually means?

Hi peter
For the Dr to say give up all sugars is a misconception, there's very little food that doesn't contain sugars in some form or another and the best we can do is limit our intake.
We have all been in your situation when we were first diagnosed but fear not there's plenty of good eating still to be had.
Ask your questions and we will soon have you heading in the right direction.
 
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daisy1

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Hello Peter and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask lots of questions and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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Daibell

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Hi and welcome. You have already had a lot of good advice that I agree with. But, nothing is forbidden. Occasionally you can have anything and if you keep portion sizes low that can be a bit more often, but use the meter to guide you. The right low-carb diet should mean you lose excess weight and the blood sugar comes down
 
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Cloudlesssky

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Hello Peter,

I was diagnosed in the middle of September and it took me about three weeks to really get a grip on what I needed to change and do in order to improve my blood sugar levels. I consoled myself by remembering that if I hadn't gone to my GP I wouldn't have known I had diabetes and would have been carrying on in ignorance.

You've had lots of good advice - I found this an excellent site and really appreciated all of the responses.

Do try not to worry... and do keep in touch with the site.

BeeGee
 
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RHutch

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I have limited my carbohydrate intake to no more than 60 total carbs per meal(breakfast 7:00am, lunch at 1:00 pm, dinner at 6:00pm. A 15 carbohydrate snack, every two hours between. On the day of my stroke May 4th 2013, my blood/sugar was 460.my A1 C was 8.1. Since I have been managing my carbs, my blood/sugar has remained less than 90. My A 1C was recently measured at 5.1 counting carbs Consistantly is crucial to maintaining good levels and good health.