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About my new diet..

Discussion in 'Prediabetes' started by msmachina, Aug 11, 2017.

  1. msmachina

    msmachina Prediabetes · Member

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    .. Have a problem with food and over eating. I've had it since i was a kid.
    I like it it helps me feel better when I'm down. i love my snacks and honestly its not really a problem for me until now.
    My doctor says I'm showing early symptoms of type 2 and the test agree.
    I really don't want to be diabetic. I have family members who've lost limbs as I'm sure others do and i don't want that to happen to me, so I'm taking my doctors words very seriously and have promised to stick to the meal plan the nurtionist has put together.
    except that means way way less snacks and apparently, way less carbs.
    Which also means i won't get to eat the foods i like as much as I'm used to and its really stressing me out.
    I'm hoping that someone here has gone through this and has some tips because i wanna stay true to the plan but I know I'm gonna need some support

    any help is really appreciated

    and thanks for letting me b part of the group :)

    Ms.Machina
     
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  2. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Do you like eggs?
    Do you like bacon?
    If so you may find this way of eating easier than you think...
     
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  3. Bluetit1802

    Bluetit1802 Type 2 · Master

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    It can be very hard at first, but it doesn't last. It is a matter of balancing things.
    What sort of food is on your diet plan? Which of those do you like?
     
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  4. Rachox

    Rachox Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    What are the foods you're sad to leave behind. I was diagnosed Type 2 three months ago and haven't eaten more than 100 carbs/day since. More recently between 50-70. I've done loads of Googling and also been recommended to look at Dietdoctor.com. There's loads of low carb alternatives. Today has been my birthday and I've managed to plan in a few treats and still stayed under 70g of carbohydrate. It's a steep learning curve but if me an ex-chocoholic can do it I'm sure you can too. There's loads of support here for you. I'll tag in @daisy1 who will provide loads of useful info for you. Best of luck!
     
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    #4 Rachox, Aug 11, 2017 at 10:50 PM
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  5. msmachina

    msmachina Prediabetes · Member

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    :) you guys are so nice!

    I know its gonna be hard and i have to tough it out but it really helps when my friends and family are encouraging (they know about this and they said they'd help me). It really helps to read it here too

    the diet is pretty normal i guess. i still get to have steak but not as much. I'm supposed to have leaner things like turkey and fish.

    I still get to have quinoa which I'm excited about . i love quinoa. but no more chocolate milk. and fast food? forget about it

    i have a 4 week diet plan they gave me. ill type it up and share it as soon as i can

    the foods ill miss the most are lil things like bread, both sweet and non sweet. My mom's mexican culture means they're often sweet bread at home. I think I'm gonna miss that the most. My moms promised not to keep it around the house which i know is going to help but it does make me sad

    Thank you @Bluetit1802 for being nice to me. its very sweet and it means a lot. especially since you don't even know me. thank you<3

    OMG HAPPY BIRTHDAY @Rachox
    heheh how exciting! I hope you're having an awesome day so far! and i wish you the best! and thank you for our kind words too and for taking time on your birthday of all days to help me :) i hope the universe bring you everything you want and deserve!!!

    Im sorry about the diabetes but I'm really grateful for your tips. id never heard of dietdoctor ill be sure to check it out!

    Thanks for the love <3 <3 <3 :)
     
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  6. Rachox

    Rachox Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    My next low carb alternative I'm going to try is coconut bread:
    https://www.dietdoctor.com/recipes/coconut-flour-bread
    I've had a lovely birthday despite feeling a bit down about it last night. My family have bought very thoughtful presents, nothing edible! :joyful: It's great to have supportive family around as well as the lovely folks here, who REALLY understand what you're going through. I was diagnosed Type 2 three months ago and wouldn't be where I am with much improved blood results without the support of this forum :)
     
  7. daisy1

    daisy1 Type 2 · Guru
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    @msmachina

    Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information full of useful information which I hope will be helpful to you. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.


    BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

    Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

    A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

    On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

    The role of carbohydrate

    Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

    If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

    The bad news

    Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

    The good news

    People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

    Controlling your carbs

    The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

    There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
    • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
    • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
    Reduce your carbohydrates

    A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

    The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

    Choosing better carbohydrates

    The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

    Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

    Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

    Eating what works for you

    Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

    To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

    The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

    Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
    • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
    However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

    Access to blood glucose test strips

    The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

    • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
    • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

    Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

    You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

    Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

    Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
    • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
    • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
     
  8. AM1874

    AM1874 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi @msmachina .. and welcome
    You have certainly made a good move coming here. Since joining this forum, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need. It can all seem uphill to start with but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly.

    You have already made a positive start in dealing with your diagnosis .. but the key point to take on board is that managing and controlling your diabetes (or pre-diabetes) through exercise, diet and testing your Blood Glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

    I see that @ daisy1 has already been in touch and I suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. together with the following Diet Doctor websites, which will give you all the info that you need on what and what not to eat ...
    Low Carb Intro and Information and Low Carbs in 60 Seconds
    NOTE: I guess that the advice from your nutritionist is along the lines of the "Eatwell" plate with 25% carbohydrates. Sadly, this is pretty much the standard information that most people are given and, if this is what you have been told, I suggest that you would be much better off reading the sites on the links above to find out about LCHF

    It is a top priority that you get yourself a test meter and, for this, the following websites might help:
    https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
    for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 or:
    http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
    who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
    I have both which I alternate for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them.

    Unless you are prescribed test strips by your doctor (unlikely), the costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. Make sure that you tick the appropriate box on the on-line order form and you won't pay VAT on your meter or strips.
    For the SD Codefree, the strips are £7.69 for a pack of 50 and there are discount codes available for bulk purchases:
    5 packs x 50 use code: 264086 .. cost is £38.45
    10 packs x 50 use code: 975833 .. cost is £76.90
    For the TEE 2, the strips are £7.75 for a pack of 50 .. but there are no discount codes currently available

    I'm testing 3-5 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for either of the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can now manage them

    Hope this helps
     
    #8 AM1874, Aug 14, 2017 at 1:40 PM
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  9. Resurgam

    Resurgam Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    If you have a heaped half cup of cooked quinoa - that might be all the carbs you can take for a whole day - there are far easier choices when eating low carb.
    For many type 2 diabetics only a holiday from eating carbohydrate lowers their blood glucose to normal, and it lowers insulin requirements, giving their poor overworked pancreas a rest, and their metabolism does recover.
    Using a blood glucose meter helps you to see just what you can eat and not elevate blood glucose, meats and fats tend to be eat freely - really restricting sugary and starchy foods, particularly between meals, and having loads of salad and low carb vegetables, and there are some fruits you can have, preferably with cream as a dessert if you find that you don't spike afterwards.
     
  10. VioletViolet

    VioletViolet Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Hello :) I'm prediabetic and have been binge eating for most of my life. This forum is a great source of support and advice, as you've seen the people are so kind and they really know their stuff! What I would say is be kind and gentle with yourself, these ingrained habits are hard to break and we don't have to be perfect! :angelic:

    If you lapse come here and chat to people they are a great pick me up and help you keep your goals in mind and stick to your plan.

    Good luck you're in the right place :)
     
  11. Kristin251

    Kristin251 LADA · Well-Known Member

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    Baby steps do matter. Just try to conscious of your food choices and see if you can minimize the bad ones slowly.

    Stay on the forum. Wealth of knowledge here. And daily encouragement. Not sure where I'd be without it. As I wish no one to struggle it helps knowing it's not just me.

    Chin up. Be strong.
     
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