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The problem is, as far as I see it, if you have no faith in any of the candidates, who do you vote for?
The easiest solution is if you have compulsory voting is the mandatory inclusion of a "none of the above" choice. (problem s that this candidate might top the poll : embarrassing for the candidates)
 
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That would explain the 1945 general election, then.....
Pure cynicism is as unrealistic as pure optimism -- it doesn't help anyone.
After a long hard war the people wanted Churchill gone.
The people then didn't see him as the war hero he is now portrayed as.
The country was on the verge of going communist so everything had to change ... hence the NHS was born.
Elections under extreme circumstances are effective.
 

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Ok so this guy is American but the principal is the same.
A funny look at why this guy doesn't vote.
Warning he's quite disgusting.
 
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That would explain the 1945 general election, then.....
Pure cynicism is as unrealistic as pure optimism -- it doesn't help anyone.
I don't call it cynicism I call it a political decision to not vote for pigs in a trough.
I presume the people with the you should always vote attitude must always believe the promises ... despite the evidence.
 

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Hopefully so, I keep telling my kids what a privilege it is to have the right to vote, if you don't vote you can't change things, simple as that.

I agree that it is a privilege to vote although I think the voting system is flawed -

Party X may be the best option for my town/district
Party Y may be the best option for my county
Party Z may be the best option for the country

Let's vote for each of those and count all of the votes, proportional representation isn't fair (just my opinion of course)
 

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Ok so this guy is American but the principal is the same.
A funny look at why this guy doesn't vote.
He certainly doesn't, as he's dead! (Shame as he would make a great pope <G> see him in "Dogma")
 

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Two things need to change.
Politicians should cease getting paid all expenses and be paid two hundred grand a year performance related.
Money should stop being created at interest by banks out of thin air.
The country would improve immediately.
 

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I agree that it is a privilege to vote although I think the voting system is flawed -

Party X may be the best option for my town/district
Party Y may be the best option for my county
Party Z may be the best option for the country

Let's vote for each of those and count all of the votes, proportional representation isn't fair (just my opinion of course)
Careful mate or you'll be doffing your cap next.
Voting is a right not a privilege.
 

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Not voting is therefore a right.
 

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He certainly doesn't, as he's dead! (Shame as he would make a great pope <G> see him in "Dogma")
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WRONG, to be able to vote is a hard won privilege IMHO, and with it comes the duty to do so responsibly.
It's a right or you're suggesting our rulers are in fact our owners who allow us privileges.
We are not children.
 

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Money should stop being created at interest by banks out of thin air.

It's not created out of thin air, your bank use your money to 'invest' in high risk strategies, the winnings from this gamble, oops I mean the return on this investment is then shared out amongst the unwitting investors, after the bosses have taken their cut obviously.
 

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It's not created out of thin air, your bank use your money to 'invest' in high risk strategies, the winnings from this gamble, oops I mean the return on this investment is then shared out amongst the unwitting investors, after the bosses have taken their cut obviously.
No ... banks really do create money out of nothing.
All money in the west is borrowed into existence ... no debt equals no money.
So the money is created as a unit of debt.
When a government creates and circulates it's own currency money is created as a unit of value.
 

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When a government creates and circulates it's own currency money is created as a unit of value.

It's been shown in history that when a government creates and circulates it's own currency, it eventually becomes worthless

It's a right or you're suggesting our rulers are in fact our owners who allow us privileges.
We are not children.

My opinion is a right, the fact that many before me have fought for me to have a vote makes it a privilege
 

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It's been shown in history that when a government creates and circulates it's own currency, it eventually becomes worthless



My opinion is a right, the fact that many before me have fought for me to have a vote makes it a privilege
It may well have been a privilege that someone fought for you but what they won was a right.
 

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It may well have been a privilege that someone fought for you but what they won was a right.

In the interests of peace and harmony I'll agree with you, for what it's worth I also agree with your views on not voting
 
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