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<blockquote data-quote="AloeSvea" data-source="post: 989340" data-attributes="member: 150927"><p>To be honest Donnadoobie, I wouldn't put it down to dodgy genetics! </p><p></p><p>By the sounds of it you inherited a body type that is strong and athletic (I'm the same) - and the very thing that gave you that gymnast's and dancer's body and ability, gave you the vulnerability to metabolic dysfunction. That is not a dodgy thing! And this is true for ethnic groups that are/were particularly slender also. Or ethnic groups that were lean and muscly (which is partly my situation.) Rather than dodgy genetics we are talking inheriting genetics that suited and thrived in a very different world! A world without trans fats and added sugar, especially in the huge amounts we are consuming these days, not even to mention high fructose corn syrup. (And for the non-European part of my genetics - a world without dairy and grain. And a world without dairy and grain is at the background of all humanity, so the theory and idea goes.) And a world where we inherited the ability to store fat extremely well during times of food scarcity and famine, in a time and place without famine and with excess carbohydrates! Because our forebears had that type of constitution is partly why we are here today to tell our own currently sorry tale. </p><p></p><p>I can't believe it now, but I really didn't make that association, and I guess you didn't too? Who that we know did?! It's only because we are a part of the population that REALLY falls foul of the food environment we grew up in, and live in now, and the very dodgy nutritional guides that serve the interests of the food industry and not us at all. And definitely not the likes of us with our particular bodily make-up. This type of bodily make-up served our ancestors very well, after all. And it served the millions and millions of people who are falling foul of our current global food environment right now, in times past. And the not that long ago past, either.</p><p></p><p>We didn't know this before we got T2D. And we know now only because we DID get T2D. But we are not alone. Not by a long shot! </p><p></p><p>If you are interested, I read a couple of books on this subject - "The Story of the Human Body: Evolution, Health, and Disease" by Daniel E. Lieberman, and is a very good read. Another is a translation from my current stamping ground of Sweden: </p><p>"Food and Western Disease: Health and Nutrition from an Evolutionary Perspective" by Staffan Lindeberg. That one is a bit more academic, but has really good stuff in it. Both talk at some length about our own evolution-and-current-conditions mismatch-disease - diabetes. </p><p></p><p>Yay for our great genes!!!! Boo for the current food environment!!!! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AloeSvea, post: 989340, member: 150927"] To be honest Donnadoobie, I wouldn't put it down to dodgy genetics! By the sounds of it you inherited a body type that is strong and athletic (I'm the same) - and the very thing that gave you that gymnast's and dancer's body and ability, gave you the vulnerability to metabolic dysfunction. That is not a dodgy thing! And this is true for ethnic groups that are/were particularly slender also. Or ethnic groups that were lean and muscly (which is partly my situation.) Rather than dodgy genetics we are talking inheriting genetics that suited and thrived in a very different world! A world without trans fats and added sugar, especially in the huge amounts we are consuming these days, not even to mention high fructose corn syrup. (And for the non-European part of my genetics - a world without dairy and grain. And a world without dairy and grain is at the background of all humanity, so the theory and idea goes.) And a world where we inherited the ability to store fat extremely well during times of food scarcity and famine, in a time and place without famine and with excess carbohydrates! Because our forebears had that type of constitution is partly why we are here today to tell our own currently sorry tale. I can't believe it now, but I really didn't make that association, and I guess you didn't too? Who that we know did?! It's only because we are a part of the population that REALLY falls foul of the food environment we grew up in, and live in now, and the very dodgy nutritional guides that serve the interests of the food industry and not us at all. And definitely not the likes of us with our particular bodily make-up. This type of bodily make-up served our ancestors very well, after all. And it served the millions and millions of people who are falling foul of our current global food environment right now, in times past. And the not that long ago past, either. We didn't know this before we got T2D. And we know now only because we DID get T2D. But we are not alone. Not by a long shot! If you are interested, I read a couple of books on this subject - "The Story of the Human Body: Evolution, Health, and Disease" by Daniel E. Lieberman, and is a very good read. Another is a translation from my current stamping ground of Sweden: "Food and Western Disease: Health and Nutrition from an Evolutionary Perspective" by Staffan Lindeberg. That one is a bit more academic, but has really good stuff in it. Both talk at some length about our own evolution-and-current-conditions mismatch-disease - diabetes. Yay for our great genes!!!! Boo for the current food environment!!!! :) [/QUOTE]
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