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KirsteenS

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Prediabetes
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Hi Everyone,
I'm Kirsteen and live in the South Wales Valleys in the UK. I was given the diagnosis of borderline diabetic yesterday by my GP, she didn't actually give me the blood readings (forgot to ask that as the appt was originally for my mental health).
So I'm here to get advice and ways to help me reverse this if I can.
She did say that some of my medications can "push" me towards the borderline status, but I know I'm hugely overweight so know that's the first thing I need to change.

Looking forward to getting to know you all :)

Kirst

UPDATE:
Just received my blood readings from my nurse: 47 hba1c
 
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Emma_369

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Hello and welcome. Tagging @daisy1 for her welcome info. Take a look around the forum and ask questions. It’s a great place for support. Good luck on your journey :)
 
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Roulis

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Hi Everyone,
I'm Kirsteen and live in the South Wales Valleys in the UK. I was given the diagnosis of borderline diabetic yesterday by my GP, she didn't actually give me the blood readings (forgot to ask that as the appt was originally for my mental health).
So I'm here to get advice and ways to help me reverse this if I can.
She did say that some of my medications can "push" me towards the borderline status, but I know I'm hugely overweight so know that's the first thing I need to change.

Looking forward to getting to know you all :)

Kirst
Hello Kristeen. You are in the best place to get all the info that you need. I am new here too and I have learned tonnes of stuff in less than a week!All the very best wishes! Theo
 

kelvin45

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Type 2
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Insulin
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liver
Hi Everyone,
I'm Kirsteen and live in the South Wales Valleys in the UK. I was given the diagnosis of borderline diabetic yesterday by my GP, she didn't actually give me the blood readings (forgot to ask that as the appt was originally for my mental health).
So I'm here to get advice and ways to help me reverse this if I can.
She did say that some of my medications can "push" me towards the borderline status, but I know I'm hugely overweight so know that's the first thing I need to change.

Looking forward to getting to know you all :)

Kirst
 

Kittycat_7_

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492
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Insulin
Hi kirsteen,
Welcome to the forum, my meds have caused my diabetes to.
Well done for being so positive.
Take care
 

KirsteenS

Member
Messages
9
Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Hello Kristeen. You are in the best place to get all the info that you need. I am new here too and I have learned tonnes of stuff in less than a week!All the very best wishes! Theo
Thanks Theo! :)
 

kelvin45

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Insulin
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liver
Hi Trouble! Firstly you need to find out what your blood glucose reading was as this will give us all some idea of where you are. You also need to let your Gp know that you hadn't eaten that morning as she was expecting a nonfasting blood test and so it may be a totally wrong result.
Reversing isn't as easy at it sounds and we've discussed this privately.

1, diet, Get your weight down so that your BMI is around the normal range.
2, more exercise, walking, swimming, certainly at the momemnti would suggest non load bearing so no weights etc.
3, lifestyles changes. Try to set a daily routine ie bed at 1030pm up at something am. Try not to snack and eat proper meals as near to the same time evryday. Reduce your carb intake and increase your protein intake especially fish such as salmon and mackrel. Try to cut down on caffiene. You know where i am if you need me.

love K

PS for anyone else reading this we're engaged.
 

JoKalsbeek

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I reversed my Type 2
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Diet only
Hey Kirst, and welcome,

I'll tag @daisy1 for her info-sheet. There's loads to learn, and it's a good place to start. :)

I'm guessing you're prediabetic then, but without actual numbers, I can't tell you how "borderline" borderline actually is. So from here on in, any time a test gets done -and that goes for any chronically ill person, really- make sure you get the results. I have a whole collection of print-outs myself, as you don't know where you're going if you don't know where you've been.

Being overweight could be caused by certain meds and insulin-resistance. If the latter, then it's hard to lose weight because the problem lies with how your body has trouble processing carbohydrates, but all conventional diets focus on calories and fat intake...! So actually insulin resistance is the first stage to diabetes, and THAT causes weight-gain. So try not to blame yourself here, okay, because it could be induced by medication like statins or steroids, but more often than not it's genetics. (Just got a whiff of self-blame, so thought I'd nip that in the bud).

Like I mentioned, carbs are a problem for prediabetics and T2's. Almost all of them turn into glucose, and when we can't process it out again, it floats around the bloodstream, doing damage left and right, and getting stored in fat cells... Neither of which is something you want happening. Thankfully you're catching it early, so you could get better numbers, potentially lose weight (I know some psych meds will add weight too, so that might be a bit tricky, if that is the case and you use them), and hopefully, avoid becoming a full-fledged T2.

A lot of people here follow a low carb, high fat diet. Carbs are one of three macro-nutrients (the others being fat and protein), and when you cut one, you up the others, so you don't become deficient in minerals and vitamins etc, plus, it keeps you from downright starving yourself. On top of that, fat doesn't make your bloodsugars spike. Better yet, it mitigates the spike you would get from any carbs you do eat, to a certain extent.

You might want to reduce or cut altogether: Bread, potatoes, fruit (except for berries, avocado and tomatoes), rice, pasta and cereal. That leaves you with meat, fish, above-ground veggies/leafy greens, nuts, extra dark chocolate, eggs, butter, cheese, full fat greek yoghurt, olives, that sort of thing. Dietdoctor.com has a load of meal ideas, if you're interested.

For me, eating low carb/high fat made a difference of 25 kilo's dropped, my bloodglucose is non-diabetic (HbA1c is 34), my non-alcoholic fatty liver disease is getting better, my cholesterol is pretty darned good, and it has helped with my clinical depression and panic attacks. I actually walked to my doc's office alone 3 times in the past 3 months, (bladderinfection, diverticulitis, and a shot: none of them T2 related or complications from it, thank heavens. :) ), while I don't usually leave the house by myself. I got home with sweat running down my back and hyperventilating, but I did go. I don't know what your issues are, but bloodsugars can and do affect mood... Just so you know. There's more than just non-diabetic levels to gain here.

Hope this'll help!
Jo
 

KirsteenS

Member
Messages
9
Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Hey Kirst, and welcome,

I'll tag @daisy1 for her info-sheet. There's loads to learn, and it's a good place to start. :)

I'm guessing you're prediabetic then, but without actual numbers, I can't tell you how "borderline" borderline actually is. So from here on in, any time a test gets done -and that goes for any chronically ill person, really- make sure you get the results. I have a whole collection of print-outs myself, as you don't know where you're going if you don't know where you've been.

Being overweight could be caused by certain meds and insulin-resistance. If the latter, then it's hard to lose weight because the problem lies with how your body has trouble processing carbohydrates, but all conventional diets focus on calories and fat intake...! So actually insulin resistance is the first stage to diabetes, and THAT causes weight-gain. So try not to blame yourself here, okay, because it could be induced by medication like statins or steroids, but more often than not it's genetics. (Just got a whiff of self-blame, so thought I'd nip that in the bud).

Like I mentioned, carbs are a problem for prediabetics and T2's. Almost all of them turn into glucose, and when we can't process it out again, it floats around the bloodstream, doing damage left and right, and getting stored in fat cells... Neither of which is something you want happening. Thankfully you're catching it early, so you could get better numbers, potentially lose weight (I know some psych meds will add weight too, so that might be a bit tricky, if that is the case and you use them), and hopefully, avoid becoming a full-fledged T2.

A lot of people here follow a low carb, high fat diet. Carbs are one of three macro-nutrients (the others being fat and protein), and when you cut one, you up the others, so you don't become deficient in minerals and vitamins etc, plus, it keeps you from downright starving yourself. On top of that, fat doesn't make your bloodsugars spike. Better yet, it mitigates the spike you would get from any carbs you do eat, to a certain extent.

You might want to reduce or cut altogether: Bread, potatoes, fruit (except for berries, avocado and tomatoes), rice, pasta and cereal. That leaves you with meat, fish, above-ground veggies/leafy greens, nuts, extra dark chocolate, eggs, butter, cheese, full fat greek yoghurt, olives, that sort of thing. Dietdoctor.com has a load of meal ideas, if you're interested.

For me, eating low carb/high fat made a difference of 25 kilo's dropped, my bloodglucose is non-diabetic (HbA1c is 34), my non-alcoholic fatty liver disease is getting better, my cholesterol is pretty darned good, and it has helped with my clinical depression and panic attacks. I actually walked to my doc's office alone 3 times in the past 3 months, (bladderinfection, diverticulitis, and a shot: none of them T2 related or complications from it, thank heavens. :) ), while I don't usually leave the house by myself. I got home with sweat running down my back and hyperventilating, but I did go. I don't know what your issues are, but bloodsugars can and do affect mood... Just so you know. There's more than just non-diabetic levels to gain here.

Hope this'll help!
Jo
Thanks Jo! That's really helpful info :) x
 

KirsteenS

Member
Messages
9
Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Hi Trouble! Firstly you need to find out what your blood glucose reading was as this will give us all some idea of where you are. You also need to let your Gp know that you hadn't eaten that morning as she was expecting a nonfasting blood test and so it may be a totally wrong result.
Reversing isn't as easy at it sounds and we've discussed this privately.

1, diet, Get your weight down so that your BMI is around the normal range.
2, more exercise, walking, swimming, certainly at the momemnti would suggest non load bearing so no weights etc.
3, lifestyles changes. Try to set a daily routine ie bed at 1030pm up at something am. Try not to snack and eat proper meals as near to the same time evryday. Reduce your carb intake and increase your protein intake especially fish such as salmon and mackrel. Try to cut down on caffiene. You know where i am if you need me.

love K

PS for anyone else reading this we're engaged.
Trouble?!! Gee thanks hun! :p But seriously thank you for that, hopefully the Nurse is going to get back to me tomorrow with the blood readings so I can update you xxx
 

daisy1

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@KirsteenS
Hello Kirsteen and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
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KirsteenS

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Prediabetes
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@KirsteenS
Hello Kirsteen and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
Thank you Daisy, that info was really helpful! :)
 
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Hi Kirsteen. Welcome!

There’s a lot to learn about optimal diabetes management but after a while it will become second nature. With a little bit of education you’ll hopefully prevent your insulin resistance from increasing, and should even be able to reverse it. Luckily for you, you’ve come to the right place to learn.

Good luck :D
 
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KirsteenS

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Hi Kirsteen. Welcome!

There’s a lot to learn about optimal diabetes management but after a while it will become second nature. With a little bit of education you’ll hopefully prevent your insulin resistance from increasing, and should even be able to reverse it. Luckily for you, you’ve come to the right place to learn.

Good luck :D
Thank you Jim, I'm definitely learning lots and know I've come to the right place, thank you for your post!