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<blockquote data-quote="Winnie53" data-source="post: 833950" data-attributes="member: 160246"><p>Omnipod, thank you for these posts. They are both hopeful and inspiring. I'm going to save it (and some of the posts that followed), then print it so I can make copies as needed to share with diabetics who are suffering from neuropathy.</p><p></p><p>What you've shared is an incredible gift, worth reading again along with the other posts supporting your experience...</p><p></p><p>I looked up the book - (more on that in a minute) - that led to you taking Alpha Lipoic Acid, B12, C, D, E, Tripple Omega and CoQ10 AND to beginning the Low Carbohydrate, High Fat diet - (find ongoing support for this diet here... ( <a href="http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/low-carb-diet-forum.18/" target="_blank">http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/low-carb-diet-forum.18/</a> ).</p><p></p><p>I find it amazing that you were in that much pain and yet your neuropathy remitted within 1 week. I also find it reassuring that you're able to stay in remission by keeping your blood glucose under 7.7 mmol/L (138.6 mg/dL) and by continuing to take only the Alpha Lipioic Acid and B12.</p><p></p><p>gemma6549, thank you for adding your experience. It serves as an important reminder that the body often needs time in addition to changing our diet and taking nutritional supplements: <em>"When my neuropathy was bad I started taking Thiamine, this is a very high dose of Vitamin B12 and this really made a difference. Even though my bloods showed my B12 levels to be fine, it still made a significant difference to the pain. I maintained good control and the neuropathy resolved itself after 12 months. Sometimes the body just needs time to repair itself." </em>[gemma6549 later corrected herself and confirmed that it was actually benfotiamine, a form of vitamin B1 that she was taking].</p><p></p><p>Brunneria, Clivethedrive, and LucySW, thanks also for your posts:</p><p></p><p>Bruneneria:<em> "I have read somewhere (and I am very sorry that I cannot recall where!) that sometimes the nerves are more painful as they regrow. But I'm afraid I can't point you at a reference for that idea."</em></p><p></p><p>Clivethedrive: <em>"Yes it's a fact! They do regrow and are painful as they do. I know, have been through it!"</em></p><p><em></em></p><p>LucySW: <em>"I know absolutely nothing about this myself, but Dr Bernstein says that damaged nerves will regrow if blood sugars are kept to true normal levels. See his book, or his videos on YouTube as Dr Bernstein's University. This happened to him - most of his very severe damage repaired itself - and he says this is what happens with his patients. That's why he puts such effort into getting the BG down, and tailoring the lo-carb diet to fit. I don't think it's a promise, but it's bound to be worth a try."</em></p><p></p><p>In her next post, LucySW continues, <em>"Here is the Bernstein book, which is very inexpensive on Kindle </em><a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/031...s+solution&dpPl=1&dpID=51NMUWSvsEL&ref=plSrch" target="_blank"><u><em>http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/031...s+solution&dpPl=1&dpID=51NMUWSvsEL&ref=plSrch</em></u></a><em> And here's the Diabetes University playlist: </em><a href="https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs_TA02I6IvV6-1s2pL4BPhvMo0Ck_lcY" target="_blank"><u><em>https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs_TA02I6IvV6-1s2pL4BPhvMo0Ck_lcY</em></u></a><em> His program involves limiting carbs to 30 grams a day. It doesn't suit everyone, but it suits some very well. Worth a read? Reliable; not a quack."</em></p><p><em></em></p><p>When I was told my blood glucose levels were out of control in February of this year, his was first book I read. It dramatically changed the course of my life. Here's Dr. Bernstein's story... <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_K._Bernstein" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_K._Bernstein</a> And here's the story of how he reversed his diabetic complications... <a href="http://www.diabetes-book.com/bernstein-life-with-diabetes/" target="_blank">http://www.diabetes-book.com/bernstein-life-with-diabetes/</a></p><p></p><p>I was diagnosed with my first chronic health condition in 1990, my second in 1999, my third in 2004, all three inherited...lucky me, and I'm now battling my first complication, heart disease. What I've learned:</p><p></p><p>Use of medication is helpful, but choose carefully. Understand that real change, and if we're fortunate, healing too is possible with diet and nutritional supplements, but again, choose carefully.</p><p></p><p>The book Omnipod referred to, The Antioxidant Miracle, was written by Leslie Packer, Ph.D. and a professional writer in 1999. Interestingly, it has only 39 reviews, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Antioxidant-Miracle-Lipoic-Pycnogenol-Vitamins/dp/0471353116/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429549720&sr=8-1&keywords=%27The+antioxidant+Miracle%27" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Antioxidant-Miracle-Lipoic-Pycnogenol-Vitamins/dp/0471353116/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429549720&sr=8-1&keywords='The+antioxidant+Miracle'</a> , which is not unusual for this type of book. Of these reviews, it had one 1 star, one 2 star, three 3 star, four 4 star, and <em>thirty</em> 5 star reviews. Here's the "most helpful critical review":</p><p></p><p>"Three Stars - The Anitoxidant Miracle, January 25, 2000: Everything concerning the mechanisms of the antioxidants that are shown in this book is just superb and correct, and also the principle explaining the team work of the antioxidants together. I don't agree at all with the author about the doses that he recommends in the book, because my experience as an orthomolecularist convinced me that higher doses of the antioxidants should be taken, especially in the cases of degenerative-oxidative-diseases (such as parkinson, altzheimer, huntington, multiple sclerosis, etc...). It is very much worth reading this book, and is very informative in the sense of molecular-chemistry, and the molecular way of the antioxidants, but again, the doses should be much higher."</p><p></p><p>After reading a few reviews, I decided to Google Dr. Packer. In 2012, he was the International Advisory Board and Keynote Speaker of the Society For Free Radical Reseach International Trevor Slater Award Lecture, 16th Biennial Meeting, Imperial College London, 6-9 September 2012, United Kingdom. Here's his bio... <a href="http://www.sfrrimeeting.org/bio-packer.html" target="_blank">http://www.sfrrimeeting.org/bio-packer.html</a></p><p></p><p>I think this man is worth listening to. I'm going to read his book.</p><p></p><p>Link to this topic and posts: <a href="http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/help-in-dealing-with-neuropathy.74653/page-2" target="_blank">http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/help-in-dealing-with-neuropathy.74653/page-2</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Winnie53, post: 833950, member: 160246"] Omnipod, thank you for these posts. They are both hopeful and inspiring. I'm going to save it (and some of the posts that followed), then print it so I can make copies as needed to share with diabetics who are suffering from neuropathy. What you've shared is an incredible gift, worth reading again along with the other posts supporting your experience... I looked up the book - (more on that in a minute) - that led to you taking Alpha Lipoic Acid, B12, C, D, E, Tripple Omega and CoQ10 AND to beginning the Low Carbohydrate, High Fat diet - (find ongoing support for this diet here... ( [URL]http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/category/low-carb-diet-forum.18/[/URL] ). I find it amazing that you were in that much pain and yet your neuropathy remitted within 1 week. I also find it reassuring that you're able to stay in remission by keeping your blood glucose under 7.7 mmol/L (138.6 mg/dL) and by continuing to take only the Alpha Lipioic Acid and B12. gemma6549, thank you for adding your experience. It serves as an important reminder that the body often needs time in addition to changing our diet and taking nutritional supplements: [I]"When my neuropathy was bad I started taking Thiamine, this is a very high dose of Vitamin B12 and this really made a difference. Even though my bloods showed my B12 levels to be fine, it still made a significant difference to the pain. I maintained good control and the neuropathy resolved itself after 12 months. Sometimes the body just needs time to repair itself." [/I][gemma6549 later corrected herself and confirmed that it was actually benfotiamine, a form of vitamin B1 that she was taking]. Brunneria, Clivethedrive, and LucySW, thanks also for your posts: Bruneneria:[I] "I have read somewhere (and I am very sorry that I cannot recall where!) that sometimes the nerves are more painful as they regrow. But I'm afraid I can't point you at a reference for that idea."[/I] Clivethedrive: [I]"Yes it's a fact! They do regrow and are painful as they do. I know, have been through it!" [/I] LucySW: [I]"I know absolutely nothing about this myself, but Dr Bernstein says that damaged nerves will regrow if blood sugars are kept to true normal levels. See his book, or his videos on YouTube as Dr Bernstein's University. This happened to him - most of his very severe damage repaired itself - and he says this is what happens with his patients. That's why he puts such effort into getting the BG down, and tailoring the lo-carb diet to fit. I don't think it's a promise, but it's bound to be worth a try."[/I] In her next post, LucySW continues, [I]"Here is the Bernstein book, which is very inexpensive on Kindle [/I][URL='http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/031...s+solution&dpPl=1&dpID=51NMUWSvsEL&ref=plSrch'][U][I]http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/031...s+solution&dpPl=1&dpID=51NMUWSvsEL&ref=plSrch[/I][/U][/URL][I] And here's the Diabetes University playlist: [/I][URL='https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs_TA02I6IvV6-1s2pL4BPhvMo0Ck_lcY'][U][I]https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs_TA02I6IvV6-1s2pL4BPhvMo0Ck_lcY[/I][/U][/URL][I] His program involves limiting carbs to 30 grams a day. It doesn't suit everyone, but it suits some very well. Worth a read? Reliable; not a quack." [/I] When I was told my blood glucose levels were out of control in February of this year, his was first book I read. It dramatically changed the course of my life. Here's Dr. Bernstein's story... [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_K._Bernstein[/URL] And here's the story of how he reversed his diabetic complications... [URL]http://www.diabetes-book.com/bernstein-life-with-diabetes/[/URL] I was diagnosed with my first chronic health condition in 1990, my second in 1999, my third in 2004, all three inherited...lucky me, and I'm now battling my first complication, heart disease. What I've learned: Use of medication is helpful, but choose carefully. Understand that real change, and if we're fortunate, healing too is possible with diet and nutritional supplements, but again, choose carefully. The book Omnipod referred to, The Antioxidant Miracle, was written by Leslie Packer, Ph.D. and a professional writer in 1999. Interestingly, it has only 39 reviews, [URL='http://www.amazon.com/Antioxidant-Miracle-Lipoic-Pycnogenol-Vitamins/dp/0471353116/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429549720&sr=8-1&keywords=%27The+antioxidant+Miracle%27']http://www.amazon.com/Antioxidant-Miracle-Lipoic-Pycnogenol-Vitamins/dp/0471353116/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429549720&sr=8-1&keywords='The+antioxidant+Miracle'[/URL] , which is not unusual for this type of book. Of these reviews, it had one 1 star, one 2 star, three 3 star, four 4 star, and [I]thirty[/I] 5 star reviews. Here's the "most helpful critical review": "Three Stars - The Anitoxidant Miracle, January 25, 2000: Everything concerning the mechanisms of the antioxidants that are shown in this book is just superb and correct, and also the principle explaining the team work of the antioxidants together. I don't agree at all with the author about the doses that he recommends in the book, because my experience as an orthomolecularist convinced me that higher doses of the antioxidants should be taken, especially in the cases of degenerative-oxidative-diseases (such as parkinson, altzheimer, huntington, multiple sclerosis, etc...). It is very much worth reading this book, and is very informative in the sense of molecular-chemistry, and the molecular way of the antioxidants, but again, the doses should be much higher." After reading a few reviews, I decided to Google Dr. Packer. In 2012, he was the International Advisory Board and Keynote Speaker of the Society For Free Radical Reseach International Trevor Slater Award Lecture, 16th Biennial Meeting, Imperial College London, 6-9 September 2012, United Kingdom. Here's his bio... [URL]http://www.sfrrimeeting.org/bio-packer.html[/URL] I think this man is worth listening to. I'm going to read his book. Link to this topic and posts: [URL]http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/help-in-dealing-with-neuropathy.74653/page-2[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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