Help me to understand my diabetes, pregnancy and insulin, please?:)

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Basically, I have diabetes, type 2 (apparently)..yes, so...I went to the doctors and they told me this, put me on Metformin and Simvastatin tablets and I was sent on my way, not being told much about it or even what type I had! So from the little information I did receive I just assumed I was type 2. Anyway...after some time I found out I was pregnant again (I have no children but, have suffered from two earlier miscarriages) I went to the doctors and was sent to a specialist diabetic care nurse..I was told to stop taking the Simvastatin tablets immediately (as can harm baby) and that I have to begin taking insulin (Humalog & Humulin)...I was shown how to work the pen and everything I needed to know about it and managed to keep my blood sugar levels under control by using this and eating right. After being 10 weeks through my pregnancy I sadly suffered from another miscarriage in the beginning of September 2016 (my 3rd now) ...I thought after not being pregnant anymore I wouldn't have to continue using the insulin but I still am to this very day? So basically my question is, if I was only put on insulin whilst I was pregnant and not before does anybody know why am I still now? as I had the diabetes before falling pregnant so not gestational diabetes. Has anybody else been through this or something similar who could be able to help me understand a little bit more? Or is there anyone who could tell me what they did when falling pregnant etc. Thankyou! :) P.S. Sorry if this doesnt really make sense as I am still trying to understand all this diabetes stuff myself and still learning lol x
 

callyandy

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Welcome @kirstylaura123 , what a sad story. I'm sorry I won't be able to help you much with your problem, but I'm sure there will be some clever peeps here with some answers for you. They are very generous with their knowledge. I've tagged @daisy1 who will post you some information for newbies.

I hope this gets sorted for you. Take care
 

daisy1

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@kirstylaura123

Hello Kirsty and welcome to the forum :) It should be helpful to you to understand more about diabetes so here is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

DavidGrahamJones

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Hi Kirsty, welcome to the forum. I'm very sorry to hear of your predicament (couldn't think how to put it).

Being a bloke I don't have personal experience of your situation. I was just wondering what your BG levels have been doing throughout all of this.
 
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azure

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@kirstylaura123 Sorry for your losses. X

My first thought is that it's possible you're not Type 2 at all, which would explain why you're still on insulin. Many adults are assumed to be Type 2 when they get diabetes, but are actually Type 1. If I was you, I'd push for more information (when you feel ready).
 

Bebo321

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Sounds like you need to make a trip back to see your doc and ask them to fill you in on exactly what their thinking is.

You should be able to control Type 2 diabetes (and possibly even reverse it) by cutting out carbs and getting a bit more active. Have a read through the various threads on the forum to get a better understanding. It's worth taking a look at diabetes and 'fasting' as a topic too.

Type 1 diabetes is a bit different, in that it is caused by an autoimmune condition (your body attacks it's own pancreas so that it stops producing it's own insulin). It is possible that you are in the early stages of T1D - following a low carb diet may also help take the pressure off your pancreas.

Whatever your diagnosis, I would suggest you regularly test your blood glucose levels (even though you may have been advised otherwise). It's the only way you can be sure that you remain healthy (and be ready in case you fall pregnant again).

With regards to your prescription for insulin during pregnancy, growing a baby takes energy which means you would likely want to eat more. This may be the logic that your doctor has applied and a prescription of insulin would give a helping hand to your pancreas to deal with the added demand. This is only an assumption and the best way to get a clear picture is to go back to the docs and talk everything through.

Wishing you well.

 
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@kirstylaura123

Hello Kirsty and welcome to the forum :) It should be helpful to you to understand more about diabetes so here is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
thankyou so much for all the information :) x
 
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callyandy

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Keep in touch m'dear, you're not alone in this. There are some jolly forums around if you're feeling low. always some one who will just say hi and give you a hug. At the moment I'd be a bit lost without all these wonderful peeps and their generous attention.

Good luck at the doctors.:happy:
 

azure

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@Bebo321 Insulin is prescribed due to hormonal insulin resistance during pregnancy not "eating more".

@kirstylaura123 Keep pushing for information and to rule out Type 1. If you do have slow-onset Type 1 insulin can help preserve your remaining beta cells (insulin-producing cells in the pancreas).

Edited to add that you should also ask about further investigations into your miscarriages. The NHS usually offers this if you've suffered three or more. Don't let them say that it must be due to your diabetes. A few basic checks would be sensible, along with pushing for further information about your diabetes type. For the diabetes info, I'd ask for a referral to a consultant, if I was you.

I hope you get some answers and wish you all the best. X
 
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Bebo321

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@Bebo321 Insulin is prescribed due to hormonal insulin resistance during pregnancy not "eating more".

@kirstylaura123 Keep pushing for information and to rule out Type 1. If you do have slow-onset Type 1 insulin can help preserve your remaining beta cells (insulin-producing cells in the pancreas).

Edited to add that you should also ask about further investigations into your miscarriages. The NHS usually offers this if you've suffered three or more. Don't let them say that it must be due to your diabetes. A few basic checks would be sensible, along with pushing for further information about your diabetes type. For the diabetes info, I'd ask for a referral to a consultant, if I was you.

I hope you get some answers and wish you all the best. X

Of course - needing insulin for increased insulin resistance makes perfect sense @azure :)