Type 2 Help

Geordiekev68

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Hi. I am type 2 on tablets but have just been told unless my readings drop I will have to go to insulin injections. This Scare's me to death! I am so confused as what I should and shouldn't eat . every web site say's something different. Please please help.
 
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catherinecherub

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Hi @Geordiekev.
I notice that your previous posts have been replied to but nobody seems to have asked what your diet is like.
Have you read the basic information that @daisy1 gives to newly diagnosed Type2s

If you could give us some idea of what you eat on a day to day basis, if you are overweight, what your last HBA1c was and if you have any other health conditions that restrict what you can eat and your mobility we may be able to make some suggestions.

Threatening someone with insulin is not good practice and hardly conducive to helping you improve your readings. There are other medications that can be given before insulin may have to be introduced.
 

Geordiekev68

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I am reasonably fit and active. 6'2" tall 17.5 stone. So a little heavy but nothing massive. My diet is varied but mostly meat of some sort with veg and potatoes or rice or pasta.but have read that carbs are bad so cut right back on potatoes, pasta, bread etc. Eating fruit and veg and drinking water but blood sugar reading still in mid teens. This is worrying me a lot which I know doesn't help.
 

Daibell

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Hi. Your diet isn't too bad and if you have cut right back on the carbs you have done the right thing. It will be interesting to see if the weight comes down a bit and also the blood sugar. Don't worry about insulin if you do need it. It's possible that a twice-a-day mixed insulin or once a day Basal may be all you need. The good thing is that insulin works and there are regimes such as Basal/Bolus that provide complete control if ever needed.
 

daisy1

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@Geordiekev68

Hello and welcome to the forum :) After having read the good advice above, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask more questions when you need to and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

pleinster

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Hi. I am type 2 on tablets but have just been told unless my readings drop I will have to go to insulin injections. This Scare's me to death! I am so confused as what I should and shouldn't eat . every web site say's something different. Please please help.

Hi Geordie. great that you've cut back on certain foods, but I would ask you to consider being even stricter. I made a little difference cutting back, but the real difference came when I cut out certain foods completely. I now eat no bread, no pasta, no cereal, no spuds and no simple carbs. I eat meat, fish,eggs, smoked cheese, and get my carbs from whatever's in them (not much) or in my low carb veggies (broccoli, cauliflower, spinach, leafy veg in general) and I find that asparagus, avacado, a few strawberries and cinnamon tea help my blood sugar levels. A lot of people are eating this kind of low carb diet..making sure they have oily fish, certain nuts, and use olive oil. I should have more fibre but cereals are insane on the sugar and carb content. I drink plenty of fluid. I usually have a bottle of beer with dinner and some 90% cocoa chocolate at night. It works and levels are mainly now in the normal range, having been pretty high. I also test by meter at key times in the day and I record what I eat and the level before and two hours after my main meal. I feel healthier all round, and my digestion is better than it was pre-diabetes. Experiment, record, check out the forums and put yourself in control. Don't forget to inform your doctor, but really there's a lot of people having good success with this kind of approach. good luck.