inhaling carbohydrates

scarborough

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recently I was working in food processeing plant . my food intake was manged well but the blood suger count went up. I am thinking that as I was breathing in sugars in the air this could afect charb intakes.?
 

AMBrennan

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Re: inhaling carbohardates

If this is serious, then no. My knowledge of gross anatomy is a bit limited but I am pretty sure that carbohydrates are absorbed in the intestines and not in the lungs.

However, there's an "inconvenient truth" about diabetes that we don't talk about here: "blood sugar increase = carbohydrates eaten" is not correct, particularly type 2 diabetics tend to have excessive endogenous glucose production, and it's quite possible that thinking about food or smelling it might cause the liver to dump glucose.

The rate of glucose production
was twice as high in the diabetic subjects as in
control subjects (0.70 ± 0.05 vs. 0.36 ± 0.03 mmol · m–2 ·
min–1, P < 0.0001). Metformin reduced that rate by 24%
(to 0.53 ± 0.03 mmol · m–2 · min–1, P = 0.0009)
Paper (mainly on Metformin)

Plus, I rather doubt that there will enough carbohydrates in the air - carbohydrates (flour, presumably) in the air pose a serious risk of explosion and this will be monitored [I think, based on a very rough calculation, that it would be just about possible to get 100g carbs in an 8h shift at the concentration that would allow an explosion]
 

Unbeliever

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Re: inhaling carbohardates

AMBrennan said:
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However, there's an "inconvenient truth" about diabetes that we don't talk about here: "blood sugar increase = carbohydrates eaten" is not correct, particularly type 2 diabetics tend to have excessive endogenous glucose production, and it's quite possible that thinking about food or smelling it might cause the liver to dump glucose.

The rate of glucose production
was twice as high in the diabetic subjects as in
control subjects (0.70 ± 0.05 vs. 0.36 ± 0.03 mmol · m–2 ·
min–1, P < 0.0001). Metformin reduced that rate by 24%
(to 0.53 ± 0.03 mmol · m–2 · min–1, P = 0.0009)
Paper (mainly on Metformin)

Thak you- I never heard that before, I knew there were other factors . Maybe we should talk about it here. I can see how it might be inconvenient but it explains a great deal. Interesing.
 

slimtony

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scarborough said:
recently I was working in food processeing plant . my food intake was manged well but the blood suger count went up. I am thinking that as I was breathing in sugars in the air this could afect charb intakes.?

It is my understanding that glucose can be absorbed into the bloodstream via the lining of the mouth, so it is a possibility.
 

slimtony

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Apologies AMBrennan - have edited post accordingly. :thumbup:

What is Glucogel and how does it help hypoglycemia?

Glucogel is available from your healthcare professional, and he or she should be able to tell you how to use this to treat a hypo. Glucogel can be administered when glucose tablets of Lucozade may not be safely given. Glucogel is administered to hypo patients by putting it into the side of the mouth and rubbing it into the cheeks.

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/what-is-a-hypo.html
 

alaska

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Re: inhaling carbohydrates

I am thinking that as I was breathing in sugars in the air this could afect charb intakes.?

If we're talking clouds of icing sugar in the air then I guess it's possible.

Dr Ian Gallen - this chap http://www.runsweet.com/WhoWeAre.html - mentioned, in a talk I attended, that upper body motion such as simple tennis practice (ie without the running around), has been known to cause a release of glucagon thus pushing blood sugar levels up.

If your work was mainly spent in front of a desk and consisted of mainly upper body movement, this could provide an alternative reason for higher sugar levels.

Ed
 

AMBrennan

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Glucogel is administered to hypo patients by putting it into the side of the mouth and rubbing it into the cheeks.
That does not imply that glucose is absorbed by the mouth mucous membrane, just that it is safer to not make the patient swallow ("when glucose tablets of Lucozade may not be safely given") in certain situations.
 

slimtony

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AMBrennan said:
Glucogel is administered to hypo patients by putting it into the side of the mouth and rubbing it into the cheeks.
That does not imply that glucose is absorbed by the mouth mucous membrane, just that it is safer to not make the patient swallow ("when glucose tablets of Lucozade may not be safely given") in certain situations.

How would you suggest that the glucose gel is being absorbed if it's not being swallowed, AMB?
 

Grazer

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Those of you who know me will understand that I don't normally agree with Ambrennan, but he may be right here. When I was suffering from severe Asthma, I had to put tabs under the tongue. Didn't mean they were absorbed by the tongue, but the liquid from them as they melted was mixed with saliva and ingested slowly. Rubbing a gel inside the cheek would allow it to slowly mix with saliva and be ingested normally a bit at a time. Not saying it can't be absorbed through the cells in the mouth; that's what happens with suppositories (but not mouth cells!) so could work, just saying it could be another reason for rubbing inside the mouth
 

slimtony

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This is the best that I can do, boys. Make of it what you will. Let the reader use discernment, as they say 'round my way.

As glucose molecules will absorb directly though oral tissue it is either swallowed directly, or allowed to stay in the mouth momentarily to facilitate rapid absorption via various areas of the mouth cavity [1] and then swallowed to allow absorption into the blood via the small intestine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_glucose_gel

To clarify the site of d-glucose absorption in human oral cavity, newly designed perfusion cells were applied to five different sites in the human oral cavity, i.e., the dorsum of the tongue, the ventral surface of the tongue, the labial mucosa, the floor of the mouth, and the buccal mucosa. The solution of D-glucose was perfused for 1 h and the rate of absorption was calculated from the amount that disappeared from the perfusate. D-Glucose was absorbed rapidly from the dorsum of the tongue and the absorption was saturable. The saturable absorption was also observed in the ventral surface of the tongue, but not in the other three sites. The rate of D-glucose absorption in the dorsum and the ventral surface of the tongue was significantly larger than that of L-glucose, while in the other sites they were not significantly different. The presence of a specialized transport system for D-glucose absorption in the dorsum of human tongue was suggested.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9572913
 

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Hi All.
Have to mention here, this brings back a memory from my hairdressing days!
Jackie a junior working alongside myself, COULDNT use bleach powder to mix hair dyes with.
As it set off her chronic asthma , she ALWAYS had to wear a mask covering her nose and mouth,
it was inhaled via her nose and mouth [when open obviously] .
We used to keep her in the rear of the salon doing the towels near the sink n washing machine, when
mixing and using the bleach powder and hair dyes.
Sadly she 'did' end up leaving the hairdressing trade to pursue another career as it was too much and
ALWAYS affected her badly .
This topic reminded me of this happening with young jackie.
Anna.x :)