Newly diagnosed.

atko

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Hello there.

I have just had an hour with the practice nurse at my GPs surgery. Had a fasting blood test 2 weeks ago and had a phone call the day after telling me the result was positive and that I was now diabetic. Unfortunately I wasn't told type one or two so todays session was a voyage of discovery!

Initially I was type 2, with the fasting results HbAlc 11.1% and 98! I know from the print out of the results that the figures are outside the accepted ranges.

I have a history of liver disease which was cleared 8 years ago yet the nurse was a little concerned that that could have some impact on the type 1/2 result, and I duly produced a urine sample for ketone tests.......which was negative, but that didnt stop her taking a blood sample to be 100% certain on which type I have.

Ive also just had a glucose blood test which read 27........all very Chinese to me at the moment and its taking a little time to get my head around the figures and the abbreviations!

Anyways, thats my numbers...... I'm Ian, aged 54 from the High Peak.
 

azure

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Welcome. Ian :)

Let me tag @daisy1 who has some basic information :)

Although it must be a worry for you, it's good that your nurse is being thorough and doing extra tests to check your type.
 
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urbanracer

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Bluetit1802

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Hi and welcome,

Have a good read round the main website and the forum threads. All the information you need is out there, and if you can't find it, ask questions. It is important to know what all the numbers, ranges and tests mean, and important to keep or record all your test results (including those not associated with diabetes, such as liver and kidney functions and cholesterol.)

Have a look at the role of carbohydrates in diabetes control - they need reducing.

If your nurse doesn't give you a blood glucose meter then I strongly urge you to buy one as this is an essential tool in helping you learn which foods are good, bad or indifferent. If you turn out to be a type 1 or a type 2 with insulin you will be given a meter for sure.
 
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daisy1

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@atko

Hello Ian and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members which should get you started on your diabetes care and diet choices. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Daibell

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Hi. Whether you are T1 or T2 may not be easily apparent and having a low-carb diet helps both. If you are slim and have possibly lost weight recently without trying then T1 can be more likely. If you have excess weight then T2 is more likely. There are two tests for T1 but GPs don't immediately do them. The medication needed between the two types is different so it's important to try to get the diagnosis pinned-down over the coming months. The HBa1C blood test is the most useful and reliable test for the state of your diabetes but not the type. Do get hold of a glucose meter; the SD Codefree is the lowest cost and available on the web. Come back if you need more information.
 

Pinkorchid

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I would say wait until you get a definite diagnosis as to what type diabetes you have before you start changing your diet . Low carb high fat is one many here do and it works for them in lowering blood levels and loosing weight but it is not the official NHS advice so your nurse may well tell you something different but it will be up to you as to how you do it it is all trial and error
 

atko

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Tablets (oral)
Hi there.

Had my type one result, it's negative so deffo type 2. Meds increased from Tuesdays 50, and from today (Saturday) I'm now taking 200 mg metformin. Had a call Thursday pm from the diabetes centre at local ozzy concerned my bloods were high at 27, and to avoid carbs altogether and more protein !

I have been struggling with this on 2 fronts.
1. Carbs normally provide the bulk in my meals, potatoes, pasta, rice, bread etc.and Im struggling bulking meals out.
2. I have a sweet tooth!!

Question. Anybody point me in the direction of alternatives that will help fill my plate, other than me sitting down eating a full chicken!

Also, anybody got tips on how to beat that sweet tooth craving?

Oh my bloods are now hovering between the best 7.1 (Friday night after a 4 mile hike) and 12.6 (Friday morning).
 
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Bluetit1802

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I'm pleased you have a proper diagnosis, and that your medics have advised you to cut out the carbs. If you are to control this disease then cutting carbs is the only way to go. A meter and a food diary will help you do this. Eat to your meter.

Have a look at these:

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-new-low-carb-guide-for-beginners.68695/

http://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/60-seconds

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/lowcarb/?utm_source=hp&utm_medium=dd&utm_campaign=lcp

Use good vegetables to bulk up your meals (generally those that grow above the ground) and add extra fats as fat fills you up, tastes good, and stops hunger. Eat plenty of eggs cooked any which way, cheese, meat, fish, oily fish, salads, tomatoes, mushrooms.
If you have a Lidl near you, try their high protein rolls, which are very low carb, full of fibre and taste delicious toasted with lots of butter.

For sweetness, try a few strawberries/raspberries with double cream, or a piece of high cocoa content dark chocolate.

There are plenty of ideas all over these forums if you have a browse.
 
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