Should I be more worried

Spirit01

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I was diagnosed type 2 in February 2016. The Dr said 1 Metformin, Nurse said 2. I take 1 as I don't really want to take any. My issue is that I feel I should be more worried than I am but I won't let this rule my life. I changed to LCHF & a lot of weight fell I off & my blood readings tumbled. I've just been to the clinic & had my feet checked, Urine, bloods, etc & apart from me being naughty & putting on a couple of pounds I seem to be ok. I can't see the Diabetes Nurse until after Christmas as she is busy so if they can't be bothered why should I. Back strictly on my LCHF & my 1 Metformin to lose more weight & be good. I do have to say that if I took too much notice of all the hype Diabetes will kill me but it will be out of fear :)
 
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Well done with your progress. But don't get complacent Diabetes has a way of sneaking up on you and biting you in the ass.

There is a lot more that it can do to you other than kill you. It's not all hype Diabetes is a serious condition treat it with respect.
 

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I do treat anything with respect including a cold but I'm not letting it take over my life :)
 
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I do treat anything with respect including a cold but I'm not letting it take over my life :)
There is an ongoing debate about the quality vs the quantity of life and if you have found your comfort zone on that graph then I take my hat off to you.
 

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I do treat anything with respect including a cold but I'm not letting it take over my life :)
I'm glad to hear it the common cold I know can be quite serious also. I once had to take several days days off work because of it.
 

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The Dr said 1 Metformin, Nurse said 2. I take 1 as I don't really want to take any. My issue is that I feel I should be more worried than I am but I won't let this rule my life.

As JohnEGreen says, complacency has a habit of biting you in the bum. As for taking 1, 2 or zero metformin there's really on 1 answer. What does your meter say? It's a balancing act without doubt.

"I won't let it rule my life" is an interesting saying. I've recently been contacted by an old chum who mentioned he was type II and said exactly that only in his case, he literally just keeps taking the tablets and doesn't even monitor. Sometime I think he should have said "I couldn't care less". It doesn't rule our lives but we do have to listen to what it's saying.
 

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I was diagnosed type 2 in February 2016. The Dr said 1 Metformin, Nurse said 2. I take 1 as I don't really want to take any. My issue is that I feel I should be more worried than I am but I won't let this rule my life. I changed to LCHF & a lot of weight fell I off & my blood readings tumbled. I've just been to the clinic & had my feet checked, Urine, bloods, etc & apart from me being naughty & putting on a couple of pounds I seem to be ok. I can't see the Diabetes Nurse until after Christmas as she is busy so if they can't be bothered why should I. Back strictly on my LCHF & my 1 Metformin to lose more weight & be good. I do have to say that if I took too much notice of all the hype Diabetes will kill me but it will be out of fear :)

Hi,
Can I ask do you take every thing in your stride as you seem to be with diabetes?
I come from the fortunate/unfortunate background of nursing and I've nursed all of the very serious complications of diabetes, none of which are nice. I'm worried about the prospect of what could be and I'm a very laid back person. I wouldn't not take this seriously if I was you, it doesn't pay to get too complacent with this condition. But it is good that with the LCHF diet you seem to be managing your symptoms. I'm sure its not the case that the diabetic nurse can't be bothered but more that she generally is fully booked until after Christmas, it also gives a chance for your blood result's etc to come back in the mean time.
Any way good luck with it all
 

Spirit01

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I am fully aware of course that I am now classed as Diabetic. I do take things seriously of course I do and I am aware of friends that have ignored it all, don't take medication & I believe they are fooling themselves. I don't mean to be disrespectful but I have friends all around me dying of cancer & have lost lots of friends to it so MY Diabetes is taken in my stride. I do take care of my feet, I take my Metformin, I grow & eat lots of veg, I've cut out biscuits & other **** so in that respect I do take it seriously but in my head it's not going to take over my life. I know it can bite me in the **** but so can crossing the street.

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Yes you're right I've had many friends and family members die from cancer, There have been also quite a few who have died from diabetic complications. Funnily enough not so many killed crossing the road.
 

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And that's my point. I have lost friends crossing the road & cancer but have never lost a friend or family to Diabetes complications and that's where I believe perspective comes in.

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When diabetes is being controlled it has very little impact - at least that is what I find to be the case, it is only apparent in about 5 percent of what I do - food shopping and cooking for instance.
I think that if I did not take it into account then it would impact on 95 percent of everything I do.
 
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I do hope one day to be in the position whereby I am so used to diabetes and am fully cognisant of all the pitfalls that I can relax and chill out more than I do at the moment. I am relatively new to all this and still in the infancy stage in my learning. Diabetes seems to have taken over my life a bit so I really do look forward to the day when I can look at a meal and know roughly what impact it will have. Roll on.

Good luck to you.
 

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I am new to all this so forgive the silly question but what is a LCHF diet?

Diagnosed in Feb but not really had much support until this last week following another blood test result. No due to go on a Desmond course and today have been put of medication and no longer to control.through diet only. Feel very overwhelmed with it all.
 
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Hi nattiecw, I was officially diagnosed last October and was then ushered off to a DESMOND course by my GP.

The course is designed to help and support diabetics.

The acronym LCHF means (AFAIK) a

Low
Carb(ohydrates)
High
Fat

Diet.

Am just discovering these forums for myself, and there is plenty to sift through - for the newly diagnosed, and those who have had diabetes for a while.

Also, treating this disorder with the utmost respect helps keeps me focussed regarding its challenges. Because diabetes is a real challenge.

Will stop here, but you are in the right place. Nice to meet you.
 
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I am new to all this so forgive the silly question but what is a LCHF diet?

Diagnosed in Feb but not really had much support until this last week following another blood test result. No due to go on a Desmond course and today have been put of medication and no longer to control.through diet only. Feel very overwhelmed with it all.
Welcome : )

May I ask how you were controlling it through diet? I have learned on this forum that what i thought was a healthy diet may not always contain foods which are healthy for diabetics. There is a wealth of experience on here. I now do Low Carb, but not High Fat as I want to lose weight. But i eat full fat produce, not the low fat foods like skim milk or low fat cheese and yoghurt. My blood sugar levels are now nearly normal.
 

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@Spirit01 @nattiecw @2Much_SugarShan

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

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I am fully aware of course that I am now classed as Diabetic. I do take things seriously of course I do and I am aware of friends that have ignored it all, don't take medication & I believe they are fooling themselves. I don't mean to be disrespectful but I have friends all around me dying of cancer & have lost lots of friends to it so MY Diabetes is taken in my stride. I do take care of my feet, I take my Metformin, I grow & eat lots of veg, I've cut out biscuits & other **** so in that respect I do take it seriously but in my head it's not going to take over my life. I know it can bite me in the **** but so can crossing the street.

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Ah but you can actively try to avoid the biting, whereas crossing the street is inevitable.
 
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