Silly Question I'm sure!

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Hi
This is my first time posting.
I hope I'm not going to sound silly.

I have had 3 bouts of Gestational Diabetes with all of my pregnancies. With all 3 it was insulin controlled. I was warned I had a very high chance of developing type 2 at any point.
This point I'm sure has arrived.
I've been feeling unbelievably tired and every time I dare to sit on the sofa I'm asleep! Also, (sorry in advance) almost continuous thrush for 3 weeks.
Yesterday I felt shaky and generally off, so today I dug out a BS monitor and tested through the day, eating as I would normally. To sum it up I've come to bed on an over 20 reading with various others in the late teens.
I'm assuming I am probably now type 2 and have an appt with my GP soon.
Sorry this a bit long winded, my question is, what is the likelihood of diet control after needing insulin in pregnancy?
I know no one can give me a definitive answer but wanted people's opinions if I may.
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Debmcgee

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I'm no expert but I'd imagine doc will give you metphormin to help reduce BG and tell you to eat better then send you on your way!

Have a good read up on here and keep asking questions. The guys on here are excellent.

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Diagnosed prediabetic Easter 2014. Just left to get on with it, no guidance or help from GP. Every day I'm learning something new.
 

Weird Science

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One of the worst symptoms I couldn't stand (thrush) from peeing out too much sugar, I would suggest you cut back on the carbs now and try and look at your diet before your doctors appointment if you can, have a good read around this site as it is full of great knowledge, cannot advise on the medication side but wish you the best of luck, hopefully the caneston can be put away soon


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Jaylee

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I have never had thrush.. So can't help there.
But,
I'd start coming off the carby comfort food... You'll be surprised what is, & it will drive sugar levels up. Besides what's already perceived as "sweet"...

A silly question is the one not asked....:)

Loads of dietary advice on here... Your already armed with a meter...! ;)
 
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Sorry this a bit long winded, my question is, what is the likelihood of diet control after needing insulin in pregnancy?

I am pretty sure your doctor will give you pills, they give them to just about everyone. The pills will not have as big an effect as a controlled diet will have. I don't mean starving, I mean eating the right things. You can make significant improvements when you understand food a little more.

You are right to say that no-one can give a definitive answer at this stage but I would guess that you have a great chance of coping using diet control or at least have a great improvement.

Having insulin during pregnancy may not have a bearing here since the medics never seem to understand diabetics and diet and I am not sure that diet is a good idea when pregnant.
 

andcol

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I reversed my Type 2
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I do not have diabetes
Welcome @Floppyknickers

People have missed the import E is for Exercise word. Not hard exercise. Go for a 20 to 30 minute walk about an hour after eating. This brings the BG levels down. If you can't fit in a walk after eating try beforehand (this may not be as helpful in the early days unless you have high BG levels before you eat). Working your muscles gives your body another path for the glucose to be absorbed. Unfortunately they are thrifty muscles and if you do work them they do not eat.
 
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Scandichic

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Poor you! It must be very uncomfortable. I'll eat my hat if you're not diabetic. Let us know how you get on :(
 

Geordie lass

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Pump
Sorry to hear you have been feeling yuck, floppyknickers (love that username)! I was diagnosed with gestational diabetes when 6 months pregnant. I too was put on insulin during the latter stages of my pregnancy and was told this is always the case with gestational diabetes. But it does not mean that you will be on insulin thereafter. I was the unlucky one and the diabetes didn't leave me once my baby was born! I was diagnosed with T1 but was tried with diet first for four months, then Metformin for a further 8 months before being put back on insulin. The doctors didn't really know which type I was following my gestational diabetes as it is similar to T2! It took the doctors nearly 5 years to carry out a GAD antibody test to prove that I was actually T1. I think you may be tried on diet alone then possibly Metformin. Hope the GP can get things sorted for you. M x


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Scimama

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Hi,
Your question isn't silly! I can't say what your GP will do but here is my experience.

I too had gestational diabetes, diagnosed at just under 7 months and delivered few days later so I didn't have any treatment during my pregnancy ( slipped through the net but thats a whole other story!).

I was officially diagnosed as diabetic 3 years later. Immediately told to take metformin, I fought/ begged/ pleaded to try diet controlled first. Its taken a while but I found what worked for me was to reduce my carbs. Lots of info on the low carb forum. I bought my own meter and tested the effect of foods on my BG levels. My so-called 'healthy' diet of porridge, seeded bread, low fat, tons of fruit wasn't health in terms of my blood sugars!

I am still diet controlled, but maybe I shouldn't use the word 'diet' as that makes it sound like there will be a point in my life when I will be able to eat pasta, rice, cakes etc to my hearts content and that will never happen! It's working for me, but we are all different - unique humans not robots or clones.

One thing I have discovered, it was mentioned in post by Andrew Colvin is that if I find my BG levels a but higher than I would like then exercise will help lower them.

You have 3 children (dont know ages) but you probably can't just go out for 30 mins walk after each meal! I find putting music on and having a dance around, playing chase in garden or playing an energetic game of simple simon or even running on the spot helps. It has the added benefit of helping tire the kids out :)

The only advice I will give and you should take is "do what you think is best at the time" .

Take one day at a time, don't beat yourself up if you get it wrong - you are human! and use the experience of others to help you choose what is the right path for you.
 
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Brunneria

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Hi love - great name!

Welcome.

Everyone else has said everything, but there is one little thing that may be worth mentioning... Were you using old strips in your BG meter? Only they have a use by date, and may get less accurate in time.

I'm not suggesting that you haven't got diabetes, but if you're using out of date strips, I would take the readings with a wide margin for error.
 

daisy1

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Hi Floppyknickers (!) and welcome to the forum :)

Whether you have diabetes or are pre-diabetic or borderline, this information which we give to new members which should be helpful to you. Come back here to let us know how you are getting on. We all wish you well.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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Type of diabetes
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Good morning everyone, and thank you for the warm welcome.

You have all been so helpful :)

I'm waiting on a call back from my GP to try and get my bloods done before my appt, so as not to waste another month or so. I'm just hoping they are going to take me seriously and not think I'm a hypochondriac!!

I'm going to have a good nose about on this site today and at least try and prepare myself mentally should I get a definite diagnosis.

Thank you all once again and no doubt this won't be the last you hear of me :)

J xx




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Scandichic

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So tell us what happened....... :)
 
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Type of diabetes
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Sorry been a crazy day.

So, the nurse called me back and I explained everything to her and she told me to go straight down. She did a dip test, which was clear, maybe because I'd not eaten since dinner the night before. She did my bm and it was 14.6. She took blood and is doing both my HBA1C and fasting glucose. Also the results are being rushed through and will be back tomorrow morning! So I await with baited breath a phonecall......
So more "watch this space" goings on :)



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Scandichic

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Sorry been a crazy day.

So, the nurse called me back and I explained everything to her and she told me to go straight down. She did a dip test, which was clear, maybe because I'd not eaten since dinner the night before. She did my bm and it was 14.6. She took blood and is doing both my HBA1C and fasting glucose. Also the results are being rushed through and will be back tomorrow morning! So I await with baited breath a phonecall......
So more "watch this space" goings on :)



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So diabetic then....
Welcome to the club! Lol! :)