Slowly but surely....

Tanis

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I have been plodding along, trying to make sense of this Diabetes thing and think i am succeeding. Saw different Dr. last week and she also said i dont need to test my bg. So thats 2 Drs. and no help. I bought my own strips but its far too expensive. See Diabetes Nurse for first time tomorrow and i will ask her too :angelic:. It seems my body likes a slice of toasted wholemeal bread for breakfast and lunch and the rest of the time i am low carb, meat and green veg. Brown pasta suits me too. Finally weighed myself and was happy to have lost 8 lbs. My test just now prompted me to post as we had visitors and i missed lunch. I was full of dry roasted peanuts so i didnt feel bad. Just tested and its 5.2....lowest ever. One thing i have found though is that over the past few month, knowing now i had Diabetes, i realise the Fibromyaglia has been really bad, i mean REALLY bad, like not being able to function without thinking i am going to die! Its horrible.
 

Clivethedrive

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Hello @Tanis,welcome to the forum,1st i will request the info pack for new posters,have a good read and come back with your question,most successful t2's go low carb high fat route to controlling their blood sugar ,and as i'm sure you have realised testing with a meter is vital to understand what we can and cannot eat so as to keep our glucose levels down,wishing you a good journey on your understanding and control of this illness,which is principally a disease of the nervous system
@daisy1
 

Brunneria

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Well done on the weight loss! And the excellent reading! And i am sorry about the fibromyalgia.

What brand of meter do you have? And what are you paying for strips?
The reason I ask is that there is a lot of cost variation between brands.

I am so glad you are finding your feet. It does take time. But you are doing brilliantly. :)
 

callyandy

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Welcome @Tanis , I'm a newbie too and I started the Low Carb High Fat diet 4 weeks ago. I've just got my meter and am trying to understand what foods negatively affect my blood sugar . I just wanted to add my congratulations on your progress so far. This is the place to be for help, advice and support, also sometimes just a rant or a giggle.

Education and knowledge seems to be the way to go, so happy reading, and good luck to you for your journey. :happy:
 
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Tanis

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Well done on the weight loss! And the excellent reading! And i am sorry about the fibromyalgia.

What brand of meter do you have? And what are you paying for strips?
The reason I ask is that there is a lot of cost variation between brands.

I am so glad you are finding your feet. It does take time. But you are doing brilliantly. :)
Good Morning! I was given a meter by a friend who had a spare. Its Freestyle Lite. The strips cost £23 for 50, which works out around £30 a month and as i am a pensioner, its a bit of a drain. I only want the strips on prescription, i am not asking my surgery to fund the meter.
 

Tanis

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Welcome @Tanis , I'm a newbie too and I started the Low Carb High Fat diet 4 weeks ago. I've just got my meter and am trying to understand what foods negatively affect my blood sugar . I just wanted to add my congratulations on your progress so far. This is the place to be for help, advice and support, also sometimes just a rant or a giggle.

Education and knowledge seems to be the way to go, so happy reading, and good luck to you for your journey. :happy:
:)
 
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Tanis

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Welcome @Tanis , I'm a newbie too and I started the Low Carb High Fat diet 4 weeks ago. I've just got my meter and am trying to understand what foods negatively affect my blood sugar . I just wanted to add my congratulations on your progress so far. This is the place to be for help, advice and support, also sometimes just a rant or a giggle.

Education and knowledge seems to be the way to go, so happy reading, and good luck to you for your journey. :happy:
 

daisy1

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@Tanis

Hello Tanis :) Here is the information we give to new members, as mentioned above and I hope you will find it useful. Ask more questions when you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 210,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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Brunneria

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Good Morning! I was given a meter by a friend who had a spare. Its Freestyle Lite. The strips cost £23 for 50, which works out around £30 a month and as i am a pensioner, its a bit of a drain. I only want the strips on prescription, i am not asking my surgery to fund the meter.

Aha! that explains it. Don't worry. There are much cheaper brands out there!

A lot of us who self fund use the SD Codefree. It is available from eBay, Amazon and the manufacturers Homehealth on their own website.

The meter itself costs around £13 and the strips are about £7-8 for 50. At that rate, you could get 200 strips for your £30.

When I was newly testing, I was using about 5 strips a day (for a few weeks) so the savings really add up.

Hope that helps. :)
 

callyandy

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@Tanis That's the way I've gone thanks to the advice flying around here. I'm currently testing first thing and before my evening meal and 2 hours after, trying to see if any foods "spike" for me. It might seem silly to buy a new meter having been given one, but the testing strip savings will add up. There are discount codes you can use if you buy directly from Homehealth Uk. (5 packs 264086, 10 packs 975833). I'm new to this too and not exactly cash rich, but to start with I do think the investment is necessary.

Good luck:D
 
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Tanis

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Aha! that explains it. Don't worry. There are much cheaper brands out there!

A lot of us who self fund use the SD Codefree. It is available from eBay, Amazon and the manufacturers Homehealth on their own website.

The meter itself costs around £13 and the strips are about £7-8 for 50. At that rate, you could get 200 strips for your £30.

When I was newly testing, I was using about 5 strips a day (for a few weeks) so the savings really add up.

Hope that helps. :)
Thank you so much. I have just ordered the whole lot for £12.99 + 100 more strips for an extra £15. I saw Nurse to day and she was ready to give me a monitor but needed to ask a Dr. how many strips i was allowed per month. The Dr. again said no i couldnt have any of it as i am not at risk of a hypo being on Metformin. They only give this out to people on insulin and some other drug. I told the nurse i really need to test for my mental wellbeing and she was sympathetic but couldnt help me.
 

callyandy

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Thank you so much. I have just ordered the whole lot for £12.99 + 100 more strips for an extra £15. I saw Nurse to day and she was ready to give me a monitor but needed to ask a Dr. how many strips i was allowed per month. The Dr. again said no i couldnt have any of it as i am not at risk of a hypo being on Metformin. They only give this out to people on insulin and some other drug. I told the nurse i really need to test for my mental wellbeing and she was sympathetic but couldnt help me.

A good effort, keep trying with the mental well being argument. It is a strong one, you never know you might wear the gp down.

Good on you for taking contol. That will help your mindset. :happy:
 
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