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<blockquote data-quote="CherryAA" data-source="post: 1587138" data-attributes="member: 327005"><p>I don't think this is necessarily inconsistent with the theory that the individuals concerned can still have too much background insulin ( i.e. hyperglycaemia.)</p><p></p><p>If you look at the first graph - the non diabetics, you will see that after the first and second spikes you see that non diabetic people return back to baseline. Then you see in the study that gradually people start to get some responses but the number does not go back to baseline - that means that the level of insulin in their body must be getting higher , eventually as the diet works, they return back to baseline. but that baseline of background insulin could be high because they spent an unknown amount of time at the first stage before this began - continually producing second phase insulin but not getting back to base we do not know because they do not give us measures for that, only measures of change.</p><p></p><p>The LCHF diet shows pretty much the same changes in glucose and triglycerides as the ND does - 8 weeks on LCHF pretty dramatically changes both of those in most diabetics. I've not seen any studies that compare the two in terms of relative efficacy. </p><p></p><p>In the end the prime goal of ND is stated to be "lose weight" .the goal being to get rid of visceral fat the quicker the better. so if you can do that , its likely you get similar results from other diets too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CherryAA, post: 1587138, member: 327005"] I don't think this is necessarily inconsistent with the theory that the individuals concerned can still have too much background insulin ( i.e. hyperglycaemia.) If you look at the first graph - the non diabetics, you will see that after the first and second spikes you see that non diabetic people return back to baseline. Then you see in the study that gradually people start to get some responses but the number does not go back to baseline - that means that the level of insulin in their body must be getting higher , eventually as the diet works, they return back to baseline. but that baseline of background insulin could be high because they spent an unknown amount of time at the first stage before this began - continually producing second phase insulin but not getting back to base we do not know because they do not give us measures for that, only measures of change. The LCHF diet shows pretty much the same changes in glucose and triglycerides as the ND does - 8 weeks on LCHF pretty dramatically changes both of those in most diabetics. I've not seen any studies that compare the two in terms of relative efficacy. In the end the prime goal of ND is stated to be "lose weight" .the goal being to get rid of visceral fat the quicker the better. so if you can do that , its likely you get similar results from other diets too. [/QUOTE]
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