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<blockquote data-quote="Tarabas" data-source="post: 1027346" data-attributes="member: 217697"><p>I do not indent to blame indiscriminately all addicts, (perhaps a problem not to be a native speaker)</p><p></p><p>But eating not LCHF is not like being addiced to anything neither carbs.</p><p></p><p>And more important, to me many phrases here sounds like blaming:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">He is choosing <em>his likes over his health</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">it depends whether he's <em>in denial or is just uninformed</em>. ...I used to assume people must be wilfully<em> ignoring advice</em>, but I've learnt some people<em> just aren't as aware as most people here</em>.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">My point being that the person needs to want to stop <em>abusing</em> themselves</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Anyone would know coke is bad. The only time you'd drink something like coke is if you were having a hypo and needed that sugar.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">totally pointless in trying to help someone <em>who clearly doesn't want to help themselves</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">is the norm as so many people <em>don't want to accept advice</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">type 2 diabetes is insulin <em>abuse</em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">It's understandable if your life isn't touched by the condition <em>to remain fairly ignorant of it </em></p><p></p><p>I DO NOT DENY that some of these mentioned diabetics have hugh problems - but it sounds to me these problems are not or not only eating carbs:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">same problem with two women at work One, age 23, is injecting insulin <em>but doesn't like to test her BG</em>, doesn't carb count as such but '<em>guesstimates' how much to inject</em>. ... but a day or so later she went to the DN <em>who said she shouldn't test if it worries her and</em> then repeated the party line about needing carbs at every meal.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Edited to add .. <em>He was also ordered not to test his own blood sugars as apparently he would not be able to understand what the numbers mean </em>! So would not even try my meter</p><p></p><p>Yes, eating <em>too much</em> carbs - particularly bad ones like chips, crisps, sugar ... - is not healthy, not for a diabetic and not for everyone else. But eating them from time to time or eating carbs like bread, potatoes, rice is not as toxic as it is described here. <em>If and when</em> you can control it with insulin! (If not, you have a problem, no word from me to deny this.) This is not the way of LCHF (and I believe LCHF works for you!) but it is neither the highway to hell.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tarabas, post: 1027346, member: 217697"] I do not indent to blame indiscriminately all addicts, (perhaps a problem not to be a native speaker) But eating not LCHF is not like being addiced to anything neither carbs. And more important, to me many phrases here sounds like blaming: [INDENT]He is choosing [I]his likes over his health[/I] it depends whether he's [I]in denial or is just uninformed[/I]. ...I used to assume people must be wilfully[I] ignoring advice[/I], but I've learnt some people[I] just aren't as aware as most people here[/I]. My point being that the person needs to want to stop [I]abusing[/I] themselves Anyone would know coke is bad. The only time you'd drink something like coke is if you were having a hypo and needed that sugar. totally pointless in trying to help someone [I]who clearly doesn't want to help themselves[/I] is the norm as so many people [I]don't want to accept advice[/I] type 2 diabetes is insulin [I]abuse[/I] It's understandable if your life isn't touched by the condition [I]to remain fairly ignorant of it [/I][/INDENT] I DO NOT DENY that some of these mentioned diabetics have hugh problems - but it sounds to me these problems are not or not only eating carbs: [INDENT]same problem with two women at work One, age 23, is injecting insulin [I]but doesn't like to test her BG[/I], doesn't carb count as such but '[I]guesstimates' how much to inject[/I]. ... but a day or so later she went to the DN [I]who said she shouldn't test if it worries her and[/I] then repeated the party line about needing carbs at every meal. Edited to add .. [I]He was also ordered not to test his own blood sugars as apparently he would not be able to understand what the numbers mean [/I]! So would not even try my meter[/INDENT] Yes, eating [I]too much[/I] carbs - particularly bad ones like chips, crisps, sugar ... - is not healthy, not for a diabetic and not for everyone else. But eating them from time to time or eating carbs like bread, potatoes, rice is not as toxic as it is described here. [I]If and when[/I] you can control it with insulin! (If not, you have a problem, no word from me to deny this.) This is not the way of LCHF (and I believe LCHF works for you!) but it is neither the highway to hell. [/QUOTE]
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