Ultra Confused and getting Depressed

cratat

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56
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Other
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being diabetic, struggling with food choices
I attended a recent review for my type 2 and was told that my bloods has shown a significant increase and that I may need other meds currently on 4x 500mg metformin and 1 simvastatin, I have also gained 4kg in 6 months even thou I started at the gym 3 months ago. I need simple easy to follow instructions as all I got from my DSN was the same stuff I have heard for 6 years use the eat well plate for meals, no real advice, have considered going to see the practice manager and requesting to be moved to another DSN elsewhere but feel I will get the usually NHS rhetoric eat carbs with every meal eat less fat. I would really like a simple to follow diet plan or advice on what my next step/plan should be as don't know where to turn and it is really starting to make me depressed. I am 43 years old 6' 6" and 20st 2lbs looking to lose about 3 stone.
 

douglas99

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4,572
Type of diabetes
I reversed my Type 2
Treatment type
Other
My GP referred me to a diabetic centre, they in turn referred me to an nhs gym, and an nhs dietician.
"Healthy" diet, portion controlled, adapted to carbs that my meter said were ok, low fat, and I've lost 4 stone and got good bs.
There is no one diet that works for all, it all fairly individual, so you really need to get hold of a meter, and find food that suits you, and find a diet that suits you, as it's a lifestyle change I'm afraid.
It took me over a year to work that out though.
 
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Raymond Starr

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
all I can say to you cratat is eat plenty of salad fresh fish fruit nuts bacon eggs no bread no spuds no biscuits no pasta what's so ever I only been diagnose four weeks from today and my Bg has gone down from 22bg to now 7.6 and lower in the mornings it will take you ages to shop.in your super market ie 2 hours at least has you need to read the labels but once you crack that part you are well on your way. Did I say eat plenty of veg but no roots veg ok ie carrots beet root parsnips hope this has help you in some way and keep your chin up meat you can eat chicken turkey quorn mince meat is good for you has well any red meat no carbs in hope this has be a big help for you ps keep exercising walking is good for you gardening swimming any form of exercising is good for you after your meal,go for a walk if weather is good ok eat little meal not big meals
 
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Daibell

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Type of diabetes
LADA
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Insulin
Hi. I think you know the answer is to reduce your carbs and portion sizes. Set a daily limit of, say, 150gm for the carbs and have low-GI ones where you can. Don't worry too much about fats and don't follow the Eat-well plate if you want to avoid weight gain; most of us have too many calories per day
 

Madbazoo

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209
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Cratat, you have come to the right place. Many of have been down the same road with our so called medical experts, bad advice, increasing meds etc.

Take a look at the many discussions on the forum about carbs and take note of the difference between good and bad carbs. Try to draw up a weekly menu and stick to it when you are shopping. Get yourself a meter so you can test your bloods before and 2 hours after meals so you can see the effects of the different foods you eat. And of course get some regular exercise.

If you want to post your typical meals we will all help you to refine your diet to get your levels down and hopefully your meds.

Daisy may also be along soon with some more useful info for you.

Keep asking questions and update us on your progress.


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carraway

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Type of diabetes
Prefer not to say
Treatment type
Other
Hi

There is an excellent book called Carbs and Cals which shows photos of real food - it is quite an eye opener when you see the carbohydrates in ordinary things like potatoes, bread and pasta.

So cut back on carbs for the sake of your blood sugar, keep up with the exercise and look at losing some weight.

I've done all of the above and feel so much better.

Any questions..ask!

Cara
 
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I attended a recent review for my type 2 and was told that my bloods has shown a significant increase and that I may need other meds currently on 4x 500mg metformin and 1 simvastatin, I have also gained 4kg in 6 months even thou I started at the gym 3 months ago. I need simple easy to follow instructions as all I got from my DSN was the same stuff I have heard for 6 years use the eat well plate for meals, no real advice, have considered going to see the practice manager and requesting to be moved to another DSN elsewhere but feel I will get the usually NHS rhetoric eat carbs with every meal eat less fat. I would really like a simple to follow diet plan or advice on what my next step/plan should be as don't know where to turn and it is really starting to make me depressed. I am 43 years old 6' 6" and 20st 2lbs looking to lose about 3 stone.
Don't forget that muscle weighs far more than fat so you may well be reducing fat and replacing it by muscle.
 

daisy1

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
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Cruelty towards animals.
Cratat, you have come to the right place. Many of have been down the same road with our so called medical experts, bad advice, increasing meds etc.

Take a look at the many discussions on the forum about carbs and take note of the difference between good and bad carbs. Try to draw up a weekly menu and stick to it when you are shopping. Get yourself a meter so you can test your bloods before and 2 hours after meals so you can see the effects of the different foods you eat. And of course get some regular exercise.

If you want to post your typical meals we will all help you to refine your diet to get your levels down and hopefully your meds.

Daisy may also be along soon with some more useful info for you.

Keep asking questions and update us on your progress.

Hi cratat and welcome to the forum:)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helps.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 70,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.


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