WIFE OF HUSBAND DIAGNOSED WITH TYPE 2

saggyann

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Hi there - I do not have diabetes but my husband does and he has had some awful hypos recenntly.
I have joined the forum to find out more about what I can do to help him in terms of diet
and if he has a bad turn.
I dont undersand the normal blood levels - when to know what to do when a hypo happens
and what are normal blood levels for a diabetic.
So I am hoping that this forum will help me, help him to manage his condition better.
Thanks
 
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Daibell

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Hi and welcome. Can you let us know what medication your husband is on for diabetes. Hypos are very unusual unless on Gliclazide tablets or insulin. Any blood sugar below 4.0 mmol is a cause for concern as hypo symptoms can start below 5.0 mmol. Ideally it should be held somewhere between 5 and 7 mmol except within an hour or so after a meal when it would be higher. If you can see low blood sugar then give your husband glucose in some form or any sugary drink/food. I always have Dextrose tablets nearby and many use Lucozade. I suspect your husband is already having a good diet which makes hypos more likely but only normally if on certain medication.
 
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@saggyann - welcome to the Forum. I will tag @daisy1 who will provide you with some basic information that all newbies receive, have a read and then ask any questions.:)
 

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@saggyann

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information which we give to new members which should help you to help your husband. It includes advice on diet and various lower carb foods which you should choose for him. The Low Carb Program is useful to read. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

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I know there is a low carb programme on diabetes.co.uk, which is very good. But, I am trying to find(to no avail so far) a website that will actually give a list of foods and their carb content per weight. Maybe none exists, but it would be very handy to have, if one exists.
 
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I know there is a low carb programme on diabetes.co.uk, which is very good. But, I am trying to find(to no avail so far) a website that will actually give a list of foods and their carb content per weight. Maybe none exists, but it would be very handy to have, if one exists.
Personally I use Sainsbury's online shopping site. You don't have to sign up for anything, nor order the food but in 95% of cases you can look up the nutritional value of foods, both fresh and prepared. It helped me to lose 4 stone and create my own improved recipes. The NHS site can help with calories but not carbs, you have to get a little creative sometimes but if you write down the values of your most commonly consumed foods for future reference it will save repeating the process too often. Good luck. I tried Michael Moseley's 8 week blood sugar diet and reversed my diabetes eating real food, it takes real commitment sticking to 800 calories a day, but it works!
 
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welcome :) I'm sure you will find lots of useful information here. There is a couple of things I will add to what others have said and that is firstly not all diabetics are the same (eg. they don't all respond the same to certain foods, temperatures, stress, illnesses, etc) so your husband will have to notice everything that affects his blood sugars which is often more than just what he is eating. You will probably be able to help him with this no doubt. The other thing I would add is that to always notice everything about what is happening and to be aware that things can change. I have been living with type 2 now for over 17 years and I can say I've had to learn to change and adapt as I go. But the key is noticing and speaking to docs as soon as you notice things aren't working well as it may be time to revise the treatment. Eg. if your hubby is on meds for diabetes he may need to have his dosage reviewed if he is getting hypos. I wish you and your hubby the best. :)
 
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Personally I use Sainsbury's online shopping site. You don't have to sign up for anything, nor order the food but in 95% of cases you can look up the nutritional value of foods, both fresh and prepared. It helped me to lose 4 stone and create my own improved recipes. The NHS site can help with calories but not carbs, you have to get a little creative sometimes but if you write down the values of your most commonly consumed foods for future reference it will save repeating the process too often. Good luck. I tried Michael Moseley's 8 week blood sugar diet and reversed my diabetes eating real food, it takes real commitment sticking to 800 calories a day, but it works!

It's great when going on a Very Low Calorie Diet (VLCD) works - and I am very pleased for you, but it doesn't always work by reversing a person's diabetes! Sometimes it can 'just' improve it, or improve it hugely. (My story. But I am not now in non-diabetic range.) (I think I have a lot of insulin resistance in my liver which more than the 8 weeks of semi-starvation is needed to knock more sensitivity into it! I'm hoping for gradual, over time, to get my HBA1c down into the 30s, if ever. But we shall see!) The Michael Mosley book is a good one though, if considering going down the low-calorie path. Or I should say - in assisting your husband down the low calorie path!
 

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Hi there - I do not have diabetes but my husband does and he has had some awful hypos recenntly.
I have joined the forum to find out more about what I can do to help him in terms of diet
and if he has a bad turn.
I dont undersand the normal blood levels - when to know what to do when a hypo happens
and what are normal blood levels for a diabetic.
So I am hoping that this forum will help me, help him to manage his condition better.
Thanks
Hello an welcome , my husband was diagnosed back in February and I also joined here to find out all I could to help him. When mines has a hypo and there have been quite a few the first thing is to recognize the signs. He gets very cold hands ,they feel like ice he also gets light headed. I look at his face and he looks very with drawn his hands also shake. If he can he will do a finger prick test to find out what his level is ,if it falls into the 4s then hes having a hypo . I get him a Lucozade and mars bar also a packet of crisps. Get your husband to sit down and stay with him until his BG starts to rise . Mine tests 15 minutes after to see if his levels rise . Mine also get very tired and has 40 winks on the sofa , I stay with him until hes fully recovered sometimes he has very bad mood swings but I don't take them to heart because its all part of his diabetes. Hope this has helped in some way and all the best to you and your husband.
 

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Must be realy hard for youI know my husband flies to the kitchen to get me a sandwich if mine drops...usually I am aware of it dropping as makes me sweat and i feellight headed and shake.....jelly babies , or a banana is good I do like mars bars but think eating chocolate puts weigth on me and I do nto need any help for that laughs
 

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Trick is vnever miss breakfast and eat little but often in my experience.
 

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Mind you I am left with a metallic taste it my mouth and can't get rid, any suggestions
 

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Mind you I am left with a metallic taste it my mouth and can't get rid, any suggestions

Have you checked your ketones - metallic taste may indicate an increased level - more of a concern for Type 1s generally. Worth considering though.
 
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debrasue

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I know there is a low carb programme on diabetes.co.uk, which is very good. But, I am trying to find(to no avail so far) a website that will actually give a list of foods and their carb content per weight. Maybe none exists, but it would be very handy to have, if one exists.
Hi @jbcat!
There's a book available which lists all the nutrition value - including carbs - of an amazing number of foods. I find it very useful:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1908261064/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Hope this helps!
 
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debrasue

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Personally I use Sainsbury's online shopping site. You don't have to sign up for anything, nor order the food but in 95% of cases you can look up the nutritional value of foods, both fresh and prepared. It helped me to lose 4 stone and create my own improved recipes. The NHS site can help with calories but not carbs, you have to get a little creative sometimes but if you write down the values of your most commonly consumed foods for future reference it will save repeating the process too often. Good luck. I tried Michael Moseley's 8 week blood sugar diet and reversed my diabetes eating real food, it takes real commitment sticking to 800 calories a day, but it works!
Tesco's website does the same thing. I suspect most of the big supermarkets do... Well done on that weight loss! Great result :)
 
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Hi there - I do not have diabetes but my husband does and he has had some awful hypos recenntly.
I have joined the forum to find out more about what I can do to help him in terms of diet
and if he has a bad turn.
I dont undersand the normal blood levels - when to know what to do when a hypo happens
and what are normal blood levels for a diabetic.
So I am hoping that this forum will help me, help him to manage his condition better.
Thanks
It's a mind field of information isn't it .. That's the problem no normal answer as know one size fits all ..
It is about continued learning and change ..
I hope you find all the answers to help and ideas to ..
Hope you get to go on a joint diabetic course with your husband some find them really useful ..
Orange juice ... Keep some cartons with you in the house or when out and about it gets absorbed quickly to raise low blood sugar ..best wishes to you both ..
 

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What are ketones and how do I check them


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Hi Kevin. Ketones are produced by the body if it is burning fat rather than glucose - possibly because a very low carb intake means the body turns to its fat reserves for energy. Ketosis is a natural state for the body when the "normal" fuel isn't available. Many diabetics, among others, actually deliberately place themselves in ketosis...also obviously it can help reduce weight as fat its being burned off. Now, I have not really had a weight issue (despite my post op photo!) and was concerned about it - probably unnecessarily. Type 2s really seldom have problems with it as the pancreas is still producing insulin, but Type 1s have to stay on top of it. If you're hitting above 15mols regularly, ketones could be high too. Too high a level of ketones means acid in the blood is bit high and this can have an impact on muscles and joints etc. I only mentioned it as you referred to a metallic taste - common if ketones are high. You can by basic urine test strips in a chemist, and there is a wee colour code to indicate the state of certain levels (including ketones)..or your GP can test your urine. Not something to panic about by any means...just something else to probably get informed about/ask about.
 
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Thanks pleinster you've eased my mind. But although I lost a stone and a half early on I am only losing 1/2 pound a week now. Could that be the alcohol


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I guess that depends on fluid content...more detail required. Still - 1/2lb a week is 1/2lb a week! It adds up, yeah?
 

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